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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

heat != flavor

i dont mind a little heat, but sometimes i actually want to taste the food.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 12 points 2 months ago

That's why you use jalapeños since they aren't spicy like habaneros or seranos

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Actually the hotter peppers tend to have much more flavour. Jalapenos are a more flavourful than similar weak peppers, making them popular. However if you've built just some tolerance for hotter peppers and you don't really notice the heat, that's where flavour town starts and there's so much variety.

I make a lot of sauces and chutneys, and habanero is my favourite for its super strong flavour and versatility, despite not being too hot. But I also love some of the stronger peppers (like ghosts and reapers) for their heat. Like reaper has an acidic burn that goes amazing with vinegary sauces, but also has a fairly good flavour.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a bell pepper with extra steps.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Different chili varieties definitely have their own flavors. Even blindfolded you'd probably be able to tell apart sauces made with poblanos vs banana peppers (both can have basically zero heat).

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 29 points 2 months ago

If I had some issue that prevented me from eating spicy food, I would get these (well, if I lived anywhere they're sold). I love the flavor and fruitiness of jalapenos (I grow them along with seranos, habaneros, and others since trying to buy them fresh in Japan sucks outside of a handful of stores (only one of which I know sells them out of season for the mainland))

[–] Woovie@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

jalapeños are really good even without heat. It’s just a good pepper. I don’t see any issue.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

Similarly seasoning peppers are a staple of Caribbean cuisine. They look and taste almost identical to habaneros peppers minus the heat.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Hotness aside, I actually prefer the taste of pretty much any pepper over jalapeños.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately, I am. Too much capsaicin messes with digestion (slows it down), and causes more stomach acid.

So with my gastrointestinal system's hatred of my body (including food allergies which wreak havoc on me), I am at the top tier of too damn white to get to enjoy the heat anymore. So, I guess thanks for a new pepper I can check out!

[–] B312@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What’s the point of jalapeños if they’re not hot?

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

They actually have really great flavor underneath the heat. I did a beer infusion years ago with jalapeño and IPA that wasn't spicy at all but had a delicious peppery taste.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In my experience the spicier jalapenos are also the tastier ones so I have a hard time imagining how this works.

I mean, I also probably wouldn't eat the spicy stuff if I didn't love the flavor - I'm not suffering just for bragging rights! So I'd definitely be down for trying something like the coolapenos here, just would be going into it with some skepticism that it's anything more than a mild pepper with the mild flavor they produce.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I didn’t know I liked jalapenos until recently and someone brought me a burger with them.

Holy shit I wish I could handle that heat regularly.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You can! You just have to train your body to accept it by regularly eating spicy things.

Good for you for reevaluating your tastes. I try things I think I dislike every few years to see if I still dislike them. Sometimes it turns out my tastes have changed and they're great!

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah my favorite is a plain cheeseburger with fresh sliced jalapenos. So yummy.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah that’s what I had and it was GLORIOUS!

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have a story about heat and flavor. Often the flavor and heat ARE intertwined, if you "cool" the pepper you mute the flavor.

So I make lentil salad sometimes, it's one of those dishes so much better than it should be - cooked al dente lentils, jalapeno, onion, carrot in a dressing of olive oil, mustard, lemon. My little kids loved it but would whine that it was too spicy. So my older daughter graciously de-seeded and took out the ribs of the jalapenos when helping make it one time and

They whined because it didn't taste as good. The flavor was contained in the spicier part of the pepper.

Not everything should be spicy but it's good to have a tolerance because some flavors are in those spicy foods that simply aren't in the mild versions.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Chilis have a natural variation in heat, which depends a lot on growing conditions. Jalapeños can range from ~2000 to 8000 scovilles. The hotter ones don't taste different, they just have more capsaicin. That molecule itself has no flavor, it just triggers the heat receptors in your cells.

Maybe your perception of the heat has gotten entangled with the flavor so cognitively one is less satisfying without the other. But that's specific to your perception and not how it works at the chemical level of the plant or human sensory cells.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

So buy the regular variety? They're far easier to find.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago
[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

I'd consider growing those. Mostly to blend alongside some extremely hot pepper, as then I can control the heat properly.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, people should only eat the things I like to eat

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say anything about what people other than me can, should or would eat.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

No worries, just making a joke and not saying it's a reflection on your character.

When I see "I'm white but not white enough to eat this" I interpret that to be saying some people are unreasonable in their aversion to spice. What did you mean?

[–] lemmycdatass@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 month ago

White enough to post this though... 😎

[–] lengau@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

Why would you make jalepeños even worse?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

i love sweet red peppers. greens are too bitter though. jalapenos shouldnt be defired either. thats what makes them tolerable

[–] paladin3494@feddit.dk 2 points 1 month ago

You’d find a lot of Scandinavians wanting this lmao

[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Good for you. Weird flex honestly "my stomach works" Well for many of us ours don't work. If I eat anything that is spicy hot my stomach will have me bent over cramping constantly until it leaves my system. Is your next post going to be about how stupid people are for having to use wheelchairs?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never said other people shouldn't eat it.

[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No just making fun of them.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I apologize for my bigoted post against the oppressed and long-suffering minority group of people who's stomachs can't handle the regular spicy kind of jalapeños. It was horribly insensitive of me and basically racism.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I got so excited by your comment that I forgot to ask my wife. They’ll probably say no. 🙄

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I’m scared of mine. Let me get a few beers in her when she gets home and I’ll see what we can do. What’s your financial situation? I’m an unemployed and annoyed stay at home dad. :p