Look at that!
A few nights in French jail worked wonders.
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It's like I always say, violence and torture work so well you don't even have to do them in the first place. Just saying you will unless they comply is enough. That's why we're the good guys.
About that last bit...
Durov -- who has citizenship in France as well as Russia, the United Arab Emirates, and the Caribbean archipelago of St. Kitts and Nevis
How can someone have four simultaneous citizenships?
Is it money? Gotta be money.
In Canada and New Zealand you can literally buy citizenship. You just need the funds. It’s a real and legitimate process.
Almost every country has a way to get citizenship in exchange of money
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I wonder if anyone rich enough has decided on undertaking the quest to get and hold as many citizenships as possible.
There'd probably be difficulty though getting simultaneous citizenships for North Korea / South Korea citizenship, Russia / Ukraine, or Republic of China / People's Republic of China.
The most i could find on the web was this lawyers non-named client, who has 8 citizenships (“octa-citizen” has passports from Canada, UK, Ireland, Belize, Grenada, Dominica, St. Kitts, and Cape Verde), after renouncing his original USA one (and he apparently did it to not pay taxes).
ya, the US is the only nation that will tax any money you make even if you don't live in the US or work in the US
In Australia you can buy permanent residency, which is then a pathway to citizenship.
Oh hell yeah it's money. It's called economic citizenship and there are plenty of countries out there that are willing to let you buy in with ownership of properties and business.
There are only a handful of countries out there that don't allow dual citizenship.
How can someone have four simultaneous citizenships?
My kids are entitled to 5 citizenships. 2 from me and 3 from their mum.
I only use Telegram for my Warhammer 40k group..Authorities seizing that will get them years of mindless chatter about the Emperor, memes and battle reports. Fuck they will pay us to leave Telegram
How can someone have four simultaneous citizenships?
Most countries let you have multiple citizenships. Unless a country restricts you from doing so, you can have as many as you want.
I wish Telegram would just enable default E2EE. Oh well, time to switch to Signal!
And if they had implented that to begin with and used servers that kept no logs he wouldn't have had anything of value to hand over and they would have had to release him since he physically could not provide those things.
He built the damn situation for himself, and the fact that such issues weren't considered practically screams "honeypot."
they would have had to release him
Maybe we could say he wouldn’t be in this situation because he could’ve responded to every request his company got and they could’ve provided all of the zero logs they had.
I believe Telegram just wasn’t cooperating at all which is wild! Such a Musk thing to do.
Just keep in mind that any service that asks for a phone number can also disclose it.
I hope what leaves the Signal client is a hash of your phone number, rather than the number itself. They might even be using salts and expensive-to-execute key derivation functions, to mitigate brute force searches (which are otherwise easy given the relatively small search space of phone numbers). But if compelled, it would be trivial for Signal to change that behavior.
Telegram would never do that.
I also don't trust Signal.. And I won't gonna switch a 4th time. I might as well switch to Matrix chat now.
I'm not sure how much we can trust matrix either to be honest. There's some cryptographic flaws in their Olm Library. https://soatok.blog/2024/08/14/security-issues-in-matrixs-olm-library/
As it turns out being both secure and convenient is very difficult
That is a pretty weak argument. The issues are minor and in a library that people are moving off of to a better build and stronger validated library. Yes, it should have been like that in the first place, but the problem is minor and being addressed.
I would look more to the various features of Matrix that aren't encrypted like room names, topics, reactions, ... and not to mention the oodles of unencrypted metadata. I really wouldn't call Matrix a high-privacy system.
I like Matrix and use it regularly, but it definitely doesn't have a privacy-first mindset like Signal does. I'm hoping that this improves over time, but without a strong privacy first leadership it seems unlikely to happen.
Olm is now deprecated and all development is now focused into Vodozemac: https://github.com/matrix-org/vodozemac. That being said, is there no proven Olm Protocol alternative implementation for e2e encryption (proven technology) instead of reinventing the wheel.
ow interesting. TIL.... Olm Protocol is a clone of Signal’s Double Ratchet.
Ow interesting.. SimpleX is also using Double Ratchet.. https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat?tab=readme-ov-file#privacy-and-security-technical-details-and-limitations
vodozemac might become that proven implementation. Without reinventing the wheel there will never be an alternative, because everyone just reuses the one existing library.
Spin up your own server for best results.
Then you only have to worry about minor metadata leakage.
https://matrix.melroy.org.. I know..
There's also SimpleX chat and Briar, but I've used both of those less than Matrix. They seem to be aiming to solve the last few issues that Matrix has, like usernames and metadata leakage.
I consider Matrix to be closer to an "Enterprise" solution, like what a business or government or non-profit would use for secure communications (literally both French and German governments use Matrix), while SimpleX/Briar seem much more aimed at individuals just wanting control over their personal conversations.
Personally I really hope that Dendrite will release a version somewhat close to v1: https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite
The main downside of Matrix is the Synapse Python server (blurp). But Dendrite is still far for complete even years later now.
Here.. SimpleX comparison table.. Signal is also centralized.
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France wanted a backdoor.. they got it, and Telegram was never trustworthy..
People who signed up on Telegram were set up to fail right from the get go. It doesn't feature default E2EE, it's not private, it's not secure... but there were plenty of users on there looking to buy whatever dark net goods and services you can offer. It's completely stupid when there are much better alternatives out there, but people go wherever other people are, just moving as a herd instead of a lone wolf. With everything that has happened over the last years, including the arrest of the Tornado Cash and Samourai Wallet devs, it's clear that it's no longer possible to resist the government in any way out in the open anymore.
OK bye bye Telgram. Now I need to migrate everything again again again.
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