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I just got this popup while playing New vegas. I don't even use chrome, i've switched to firefox. How can this be allowed? Also, this is Win10

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[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 154 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If governments actually gave a fuck about antitrust anymore, it would be. 20-ish years ago, they dragged Microsoft to court over simply bundling IE with Windows. It didn't even constantly nag you to set as default; just the fact that it was bundled at all was enough to make it into the sights of regulators.

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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 100 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Microsoft clearly uses dark patterns and FUD to lure you into using Bing.

As long as they're using legal loopholes (or downright do not care because they have enough money to pay any fines) you cannot do anything against it except not using their OS.

[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I stopped using outlook entirely for this behaviour. Outlook would embed a bing search in your long press menu on android.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What kind of long press menu? I have it installed but don't have any such menu.

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[–] Ddhuud@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's getting REALLY difficult to tell normal operation and viruses apart.

[–] ______@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think you're confusing virus and malware. Windows is malware by definition. I think according to gnu philosophy any proprietary software is malware because features are designed to make profits and not to service the end user.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

thanks again Richard

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[–] hyperhopper@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Because in all practical senses, windows is a virus.

Viruses at their core are programs which do things against your will on your own machine. Which is bad.

However, that is exactly what windows does. But like the boiling frog, people for some reason are okay with more bullshit from Microsoft and less control of their own devices with every passing update and year.

Complaining on ~~reddit~~ social media does nothing. Switching to Linux gives you back control and will be better for everyone in the long run.

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 66 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Maybe I'm missing something, but why would this be illegal?

[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 133 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Anti consumer and anti competitive. Using their position as the OS to bug the living shit out of you to use their services

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

According to Rules of the Internet § 12 "if I find something to be annoying, objectionable, or wrong it surely must be illegal."

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

MS literally got in trouble for bundling IE with the OS 20 years ago... This is so much worse.

If you cannot understand why people are rightfully upset... LEARN YOUR FUCKING HISTORY.

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[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of the many reasons why I will never return to Windows.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I still have to use 10 for work, but on the plus side it's a 5 day per week reminder of just how terrible it is.

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[–] DerpyPlayz18@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I still don't get how Microsoft got in trouble for bundling internet explorer but now they are completely fine doing this

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Anti-trust regulation has gotten very toothless in recent years. The shit many corporations are pulling now is insane when you think back about what happened to ms then.

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[–] AuthorityClassError@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Since everybody on this comm seem to be circlejerking, let me how to tell you how to get rid of this POS. Shit's called BGAupsell and resides in Windows\Temp\MUBSTemp, set yourself as owner of the file via your admin account and then delete it and replace it with an an empty EXE file that you assign ownership to yourself with. Then you write protect it and you're done. If you just delete the dir or the file, it'll come back next major update.

NOW, to really give MS a punch in the dick, you're also going to want to disable the search menu ad as well:

https://www.howtogeek.com/826967/how-to-disable-bing-in-the-windows-11-start-menu/

And all of you fucking *nux newfargs, grow up. Also, don't fucking drink and root you lusers.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Or you just install Linux and be done with it.

Yes, I am THAT guy. It looks and feels like windows, but prettier, nicer, and better. No more corporate rules bullshit, no more anti virus bullshit, no more bullshit.

Yes, most games do work now.

Yes, most windows software has equal or better alternatives, or run natively through wine.

You don't have to put up with Microsoft bullshit.

Get rid of office, Hotmail and teams while you're at it and get working software.

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What company was it that lost an antitrust lawsuit again? It was something like Macrosoft? Microphone? idr

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[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's shit like this that will eventually drive me away from windows. I was baffled when it appeared.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

As someone who was recently driven, leave it. It’s never going to get better, only worse. And linux is only going to get better the more you understand it.

[–] Armetron@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is because you agreed to to the terms and conditions of the Windows operating system

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[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

“I will make it legal.”

-Darth CEOus

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 21 points 1 year ago

They got in trouble for setting internet explorer as the default and had to pop a prompt when you installed windows a while ago.

I don't think asking if you want to is illegal though. But it could be as they are using their ownership of the operating system to push you towards their other products.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Why wouldn't it be legal? You are using their product and they put out a notification on it asking if you want to use one of their products. Why would that be illegal!?

Like I understand people not liking it, but illegal?

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[–] nostradiel@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Run a debloat script for windows from christitustech. And if you want to start from fresh install w10/11 ltsb/ltsc and run the debloat script, that is the safest option, if you don't want to swap to Linux.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 18 points 1 year ago

It's only illegal if it's enforced

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everything is legal in the US if you can lobby enough

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Not quite. You can also break the law, pay a fraction of what you grifted, say sorry and then continue.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (18 children)

They lost a trial in this allnd paid a flick on the wrist.

They just so this because they know it will get them more than it will cost.

Install Linux, make the switch. Yes you can.

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[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

In Europe it isn't. But I got it too. Even worse, my default browser was changed to Bing after an update.

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[–] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Microsoft rewards points" wtf?

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[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

The people at Microsoft who remember the ftc action have retired I guess

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

This shit is why I stopped using windows altogether

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Lets just rename this community to MicrosoftTechSupport and be done with it.

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since the antitrust laws don’t exist any more, it’s legal, yes. If you don’t want that, you have to switch to Linux.

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