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This just showed up on my home page after an update. I wasn't asked and never gave any sort of consent.

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[–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They are probably just using your IP address to determine the location. That will show the location of your ISP, not your location. That's not much more info than any other server gets when you are connecting to it. Also does not require Mozilla to send any geolocation data.

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee -4 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I hope so. Them buying an advertising company and then pulling this shit has got me feeling paranoid.

[–] ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Are you implying Mozilla paid AccuWeather to have placement on it's browser? It's always the other way around, think about Google paying to be the default search engine on Safari. If anything, I have to think Mozilla was paid to incorporate AccuWeather and not the other way around.

[–] EherNicht@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago

They also payed to be the default on Firefox ._.

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Are you implying Mozilla paid AccuWeather to have placement on it’s browser?

No, AccuWeather paid Mozilla. Mozilla sold the data to AccuWeather. Mozilla made money.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

Have you got a source that shows that data of FF users actually went to AccuWeather or is this purely speculation?

[–] ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Why would Mozilla pay AccuWeather in user data? This would cut into their revenue and be horrendous press. Doing so makes no sense, legit entirely illogical. AccuWeather paid to get placement on the new tabs page. But, if you're this worried about it and haven't spent time in about:config to prevent fingerprinting, tracking, and location data collection, start there for sure. Either way, this seems like a huge stretch and wouldn't make sense for Mozilla try and pull off.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think you are saying Mozilla sold tabs screen placement to Accuweather, which means Accuweather gets user IP addresses (and therefore approximate location among other things) when the user launches the browser. So I guess the answer to OP question is yes.

And yes, opt-out is possible, but a pro-privacy approach would require opt in.

[–] ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I see, I interpreted the statement as Mozilla handing over previously collected user data as payment for getting AccuWeather's widget.

However, any webpage visited in a bowser provides this info. So if you haven't stopped it happening from the get, you're handing this data over in mass. But thanks for clearing that up for me!

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Sure. Normally I think of visiting a site in a browser as navigating to that site on purpose. If Mozilla sells placement in the browser so that the browser navigates to that site automatically (unless you disable that), it's invasive. That said I do remember Mozilla sets the default start page to something annoying and I had to reconfigure it to about:blank when I set up the system.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I like the big search bar in the middle of my screen

[–] piracysails@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This thunderstorm brought to you by Carl's Jr

[–] palitu@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Idiocracy quote?

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago

is this a serious question? the weather forecast is the question

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, sponsored in this context means that AccuWeather paid Mozilla to put their little widget on everyone's New Tab screen.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why am I not seeing it on my new tab screens?

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

It might be regional.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Just use Librewolf + Mullvad with extensions. Problem solved

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

It might be regional.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This is an Intresting one. I'm curious what the deal was.

Assuming accuweather is paying Firefox, thats probably a good thing because Firefox definatly needs to diversify its income.

I wonder what exactly AccuWeather gets. Is only for more web traffic (which is significant) or is it something else?

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

That's a great question. I couldn't find anything online, presumably because it just happened.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just updated firefox and am not seeing it anywhere, including on the new tab page before I type in a URL or something.

[–] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

It might be regional.