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[–] robbotlove@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago (1 children)

when Russia becomes the third world nation in a proxy war.

[–] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 1 year ago (43 children)

Russia has been a third world nation since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Politicians just like to use the Russian boogeyman to scare people who remember the Cold War. Putin may be a monster, but China is the real threat.

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 82 points 1 year ago (41 children)

Just an endless slew of clickbait "China bad" headlines all the time. Really makes you wonder about if there is some sort of systemic problem with western media.

[–] Novman@feddit.it 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Be careful, saying something like that might get you called a wumao

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[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

If you want to see consent being manufactured, go into the Telegraph and click through to the journalist's ~~post history~~ article history

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

It's going to be hilarious in a year or so when we'll have LLM bots churning these types of articles out even at respected news outlets, and all critics of this narrative will still get smeared as being bots themselves

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[–] FARTYSHARTBLAST@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Whaaat? But China said they weren't doing that. China wouldn't just lie like that, would it?

[–] Hotdogman@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Did you check behind their back to see if their fingers were crossed?

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[–] anoncpc@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, if you go to aliexpress, you could buy Chinese made helicopter, drones and metals. Thank you the telegraph for the basic info

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If you search for certain military equipment, you’ll often see reviews from Russian soldiers and Ukrainian soldiers right next to each other lol

[–] anoncpc@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like, the yank was so mad at Ukrainian keep using Chinese drone, that they force them to stop buying it and use their expensive drone.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Pentagon is mad that Congress forced them to stop buying Chinese drones. Apparently there are no available replacements in some categories and even where there are, they are many times more expensive.

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Rural communities have been using Huawei equipment for internet because it’s cheap and fast. The federal government became upset and demanded they rip everything and replace it with American parts. I think it costs like $12 billion, but the US didn’t even give the communities 50% of the required amount to switch over

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love watching Congress fuck over the Pentagon. Just the worst people in the world slapfighting over fake money. Probably a bad idea to let hundreds of lead huffing jet ski dealers whose only qualification is buying more TV add time than their opponents run a global empire.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My favorite instance of this was the US Army begging congress not to buy more Abrams tanks because they were already too expensive to maintain but congress overruling them and ordering them to buy more to keep the factories open.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

That's gotta be in some cyberpunk book somewhere. Especially if they start giving different ratings to the equipment and flaming each other over it.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (74 children)

China: sends Russia six helicopters (before the war), some children's toys, a box of consumer-grade hunting scopes, and metal. They are the bad guys who are prolonging the war.

NATO: sends Ukraine weapons and military vehicles worth more than China's entire military budget, and provides training and logistics support. They are the good guys trying to end the war.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago

The liberals only read the titles and then come straight to the comment sections so they don't actually realise any of this unless you spell it out for them.

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[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Focusing on Chinese drones that end up in Russia while completely ignoring the Chinese drones that end up in the Ukraine is some cherry picking I expected from the Telegraph. Products and components are made in China, which shouldn't come as a surprise.

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (11 children)

This is referring to consumer level drones too right? Like DJI stuff?

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[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Telegraph is the only one reporting this, we're supposed to believe a sensationalist conservative tabloid?

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[–] jonhanson@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China is widely suspected of supplying Russia with equipment and materials to support their war, however no-one has adduced anything concrete to support that theory so far.

The article itself doesn't cite much in the way of sources or evidence, other than mentioning a report by Molfar, the open source intelligence agency. Molfar has published reports on the same topic in the past, but there hasn't been anything recently.

If the Telegraph had new information or evidence they would be shouting a lot louder than this. This is most likely them covering up for a quiet day by dredging up some old rumours and repackaging them as news.

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[–] Staines@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago (12 children)

telegraph getting upset about free markets?

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[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 1 year ago (25 children)

Beijing issued a 12-point “peace statement” earlier this year that rehashed its position and did not propose any solutions to ending the war.

You obviously didn't read it then...

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