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When I first started using Lemmy it seemed like such a nice place with interesting discussions. It seemed like the first group of people to join after the app exodus were being quite careful to be respectful of the existing culture.

Now, it seems as though the culture from Reddit has completely replaced it. Toxicity and all. I will say I do follow a lot of communities from a wide range of instances so it's clearly not everywhere.

Am I the only one who's feeling like we've just stormed in and bulldozed Lemmy?

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[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's the circle of life. Something awful, the digg exodus, reddit, Twitter/x. Think of us shit posters as a sign of lemmy success.

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[–] Spiracle@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Kbin user here. It does not federate downvotes from lemmy. So far, I have a total of two (2) downvotes and every single interaction, including the one I got downvoted for, was quite positive.

No toxicity in normal interactions so far. The only (slightly) toxic comment sections were regarding meta topics of users complaining about toxicity elsewhere and/or wanting to defederate more communities. Even those discussions were nearly entirely polite and productive.

The only somwhat toxic topic I participated in was when one car-enthusiast complained about the fuckcars community and got called out throughout the comment section. Piling on like that was probably not the best way and they deleted their post some time after.

[–] schwim@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Echo chambers are echo chambers, no matter the platform. As the voices grow, it gets louder. Just because it's an alternative to the mainstream, I wouldn't consider the members here smarter, more enlightened or savvier as a whole. Lemmy just got louder, that's all.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Yes. The old culture has completely been replaced. I still haven't formed an 100% opinion on whether that's good or bad. Maybe it's neither.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

From what I can gather it isn’t true that Reddit culture has completely supplanted what came before, but it has definitely shifted things overall, both mixing to some extent. Scale is part of that though, as is the filtering mechanisms provided by a relatively niche platform.

Antagonistic downvoting (I’m now basically against downvoting I think), superficial statements, especially those that are dismissively in disagreement to the point of unpleasantness or abusiveness … I’d say I’ve seen more of all these things.

One effect, I think, is the establishment of Reddit replacement communities and their gaining large membership which has shifted the centre of gravity here. The whole of lemmy.world being an example.

Besides all of that, I’d say I’ve seen the generally or more frequently presumed set of “obvious” opinions shift toward the mainstream, which isn’t surprising at all, but with a slightly ruder and superficial form of engagement (at times at least), it’s rather tiring.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yup, Reddit culture and redditorisms have very much taken a hold in Lemmy unfortunately. Hell I remember that well since I came over here after GenZedong got quarantined. If anything I've seen Lemmy culture maintained only in the places that have created and fostered it for years before Redditors came over and which were actively combating Reddit culture from coming over.

Those places being of course Lemmygrad and Hexbear, I would also include lemmy.ml here if it didn't die a painful death. I remember it being a completely different place before, now I tend to avoid threads from there rather than take part. It just isn't what it used to be, fortunately Hexbear somewhat offsets this problem by having a completely separate and distinct culture. I like them, and I like very much that they are Reddit resistant.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Unpopular opinion, but I really hate the soft bubble space every social media is becoming and welcome the freedom of speech. I'm not saying people should be harassing each other, but it is nice knowing I could call someone a fucking dumbass when they're being one and not expect an IP ban.

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[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You aspects of Reddit's toxic culture have you observed on Lemmy?

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