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A Hezbollah rocket struck a soccer field in Majdal Shams, a Druze town in the Golan Heights, killing at least 10 children, and injuring 24, the IDF reported on Saturday.

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[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 35 points 3 months ago

Fuck you, Hezbollah.

[–] apub879@kbin.earth 2 points 3 months ago
[–] invisiblegorilla@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Reports are this was a misfire from the iron dome.

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

The IDF showed clear evidence that it wasn't an Iron Dome rocket, but one very similar to what Iran manufacturers.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I didn't think they were able to aim those rockets beyond a general direction. Has that changed?

[–] steventhedev@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

About 20 years ago Hezbollah first started using guided anti-tank missiles. In some cases they are steering the missile all the way until impact. I'm sure details will come out soon, but you don't just randomly hit the field/playground in the middle of town by accident without trying at least a little bit.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Depends. I've heard of rockets being launched at Israel on the news consistently, for decades. I rarely hear about more than a few casualties, and even more rarely of deaths. When hundreds are launched every year you would a few to randomly hit a populated area.

Either this is an outlier with a dumb rocket, or the average rocket launched is dumb but this one was not. Either way, innocents die because the people and powers that be haven't learned how to not be violent assholes to each other.

[–] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago
[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think you are overestimating the precision of unguided rockets. Lets eyeball this:

Lets assume the rocket flies ten kilometers, which is on the short end of things. As it is subsonic, it at best could reach a speed of 300m/s (hypersonic is above 343 m/s). Since we are looking at an arc for the shape, lets assume a launch angle of 30°, making it a fairly flat arc. So the speed in ground direction then only is 86% which is cos 30° or in total 260m/s. So that rocket has to fly at least 38 seconds.

Taking just a sideways wind, assuming a gentle breeze on the beaufort scale, at about 4.5 m/s, that would result in a deviation of 171m over the 38 seconds. But now you get wind from the back or the front, which gives the rocket upwards or downwards drift. Or the wind isn't perfectly sideways, so it actually changes the direction the propulsion is pushing too. Over such a range you also get changing wind speeds and directions...

You face the same thing with artillery. Which is why it is usually used in batteries and to cover an area, rather than hit a specific target. Although Artillery is easier in the sense, that the propulsion happens right in the beginning and is aimed correctly.

If we are talking guided missiles, it is a very different story, although i would be suprised if Hezbollah had access to GPS guiding or similiar high precision tools.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl -3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

From the live relation:

Hezbollah is denying any responsibility for the rocket attack that targeted a football pitch where children were playing in Majdal Shams.

[–] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/nine-people-killed-rocket-hits-football-pitch-israeli-occupied-golan-israel-2024-07-27/

Speaking with reporters at Majdal Shams, Israeli military spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari said that forensics showed the rocket was an Iranian-made Falaq-1.

Hezbollah had earlier announced firing a Falaq-1 missile on Saturday, saying it had targeted an Israeli military headquarters.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 3 months ago

Well we cannot trust a word out of the IDFs mouth, so unfortunately there is no evidence.

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If the children were Jewish they would take pride in the civilian casualties

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just like Israel takes pride in murdering more than 37 000 innocent Palestinian civilians.

‘I am Proud of the Ruins of Gaza’ – Israeli Minister Tells Knesset

Or this one from 7 months ago; An Israeli soldier she wants to ‘kill more and more’ of Palestinians in Gaza

Just screw both. All of these should just be put into a one room and fight each other. Leaving the innocent people out of it.

You can keep downvoting as much as, you want. However, it won’t change the fact that the evidence backs up what I wrote. Your downvotes can’t hide the truth and it never will.

[–] MyEdgyAlt@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago

Well then they’d have been occupiers’ human shields. So while probably not the primary target, per Israeli policy they’d be perfectly legitimate military targets. Human shields and unrelated collateral damage are perfectly acceptable to the apartheid occupiers.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

You're a very trusting soul.