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Proton launches privacy-focused Google Docs alternative: Docs in Proton Drive is an open-source, end-to-end encrypted collaborative document editor (proton.me)
submitted 4 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] Jarmer@slrpnk.net 128 points 4 months ago (19 children)

Just tried it out with my proton account. Looks great! It's very simple, but I also like that about it. And of course being private is wonderful.

[–] not_so_handsome_jack@sh.itjust.works 76 points 4 months ago

Simplicity is an underrated feature. I'm really excited to see this come out because I'm becoming a bigger fan of proton every day.

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[–] Nima@leminal.space 113 points 4 months ago (41 children)

ooooh I love this. Proton is just winning constantly these days.

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 4 months ago (16 children)

Damn. Proton is doing a good job of stacking up W's these days.

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[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The only open source mentioned in the post is their encryption. Not the document editing software. OP please remove your change to the article title, it's extremely misleading.

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[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 56 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Open source ? Does that mean I can host my own ? Would it be compatible with other self hosted instance ?

EDIT: the only source code I found hasn't been maintained for 3 years.

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[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I like how there seems to be more and more alternatives to MS Office, even from big companies like Google. Best case scenario, this could lead to companies actually starting to use an open format, like ODF, so that all these different office applications can be used without causing issues in the file and that would pave the way for open source alternatives, like LibreOffice or OnlyOffice, to become viable alternatives for a lot more people and companies. Do Google Docs and Proton Drive use/support ODF? I'm pretty sure MS Office supports it.

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago (12 children)

I wish msoffice would just die a miserable death

Word is a pain in the ass. Resize a table column by 1px and the rest of the document gets absolutely fucked

Excel suffers from similarly frustrating UI issues, but my main problem with it is that it's being used for things that it was never intended to be used for. On the extreme side, a company will shove all their HR info into one xlsx file and then someone will accidentally, somehow unrecoverably, delete it

More commonly, I've had to use it as a progress tracking/ticketing tool. An entire team adding rows, deleting rows, accidentally clearing formulas, highlighting random fucking cells, resizing columns etc. all at the same time. It's just hell.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Abusing Excel as a crappy database is a very real and very widespread problem.

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[–] mutant_zz@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, the lock-in is pretty extreme... as is user inertia. Office 365 has made the problem worse as well, even if you have something like OnlyOffice that does a good job of compatibility with Office, it can't sync with OneDrive.

If you collaborate with non-technical people, they will expect you to work in Office formats, and won't even entertain discussion of any alternative.

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[–] fluxc0@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Proton at this very moment

I CANT STOP WINNING!

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 4 months ago (4 children)

When I was degoogling a couple years ago I had a heck of a time choosing between protonmail and fastmail.

I went with the fastmail and, while I have no complaints, I'm starting to glance at greener grass.

[–] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 39 points 4 months ago

I love Proton and will advocate for it any chance I get, but I can also see that it might be good to have people like you who don't put all their eggs in one basket

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[–] exanime@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (24 children)

Just signed up today for the family plan in my ongoing degoogling process

It's a bit pricey but so far loving it. Specially Proton Pass, coming from bitwarden (which I liked), it's nicer and faster, much faster

[–] BenPranklin@lemmy.world 50 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Don't put all your eggs in one basket again, that's what makes degoogling such a difficult thing. There's several proton services I intentionally avoid and use alternatives for so I don't have to uproot my entire digital life to leave them if they start being shitty. If you go from using all google services to all proton you're setting yourself up to need the same sort of big migration down the road. 15 years ago google was also an awesome company that kept making incredibly useful things for users just because they could and look at them now.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Doesn't appear you can do anything of that via the Drive mobile app. Maybe one day they will make that possible.

If they can ever get a spreadsheet application I could fully get away from Google for that kind of thing without losing out on anything I care about.

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 13 points 4 months ago

wake me when we can use them as a saml provider

[–] gccalvin@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I know there are different use cases for each, but generally do people prefer self hosted nextcloud, proton docs, or libre office?

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people confuse open source with community driven/governed.
If things go awry, you'll be locked-in, married to Proton.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How do you mean? You'd just export your data.

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