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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (9 children)

if you found a corpse it would cause a lot of problems for the religion.

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[–] nadiaraven@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

The answers here are absolutely crazy. Go find some credible biblical scholars (ones whose jobs are not dependent on statements of faith) like Bart ehrman and read what they say. My understanding is that most scholars agree that Jesus existed, and even that he was crucified. Don't trust lemmy, don't even trust me, go find the experts, read what they say, and decide for yourself.

[–] lemmydripzdotz456@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago
[–] Lovstuhagen@hilariouschaos.com 10 points 4 months ago (19 children)

No, and that is to even be expected.

He was a prophet whose movement had around 120 or so core disciples along with his apostles, plus thousands who followed him about and considered him a healer and revolutionary teacher.

There are people who have done similar things that are completely lost to history other than small records that vaguely outline the controversy surrounding them... We shouldn't really expect more in terms of proof...

But what is unique is the fact that we have an extremely well preserved corpus of text surrounding him. We also have some good idea that a lot of his followers were prosecuted and killed, and never recanted in the process, which might incline you to believe in the radical truth that they lived by.

Of course I am biased - I am a Christian - but it really does just seem pointlessly antagonistic to dismiss His Existence at all.

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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

The only physical proof you can have of a person that lived before photography is a body. So no, Jesus did not have a publically marked grave and we do not have his bones.

That being said, there is a difference between proving something historically and proving it in the court of law. Historical evidence points to Jesus having been a person that lived around that time.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago

There most likely were a bunch of people called Yeshua back then.

[–] Blackout@kbin.run 8 points 4 months ago

Yes there is, here is his mugshot shortly after he was booked. Looks like he spent the evening turning water into wine.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago

It seems like the consensus is that the stories probably stem from a real guy because that's deemed more likely than no person existing as a basis for the story, but no, there is not material evidence for jesus christ's existence

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