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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by ColdWater@lemmy.ca to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

I only just switched to Linux last month that time I don't know what Wayland or X11 is and I just use Linux like normal without knowing I'm using Wayland (KDE), now since I'm already configured my KDE desktop on Wayland and I don't wanna do it again, so I'm looking for a remote desktop that work under Wayland not locally but from anywhere does anyone know software like that exist? (Sorry for horrible English)

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[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So, still no official, sigh. Along with potentially rustdesk, I've found Sunshine/Moonlight useful but setup sucks.

[–] Hominine@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Sunshine/Moonlight works well for me also.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

i havent been able to get it to work on wayland

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

tried bazzite ? nvidia issues ?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

running amd atm. the sunshine linux maintainer said he wont maintain the wayland backend.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

Well, that's disappointing.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've always liked "nomachine" for remote desktop access. It seems to support Wayland.

[–] flubba86@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

We use NoMachine at work too, for WFH users' remote access to internal servers and virtual desktops. It's a nice tidy solution, it was forked from NX library from the X2GO project about 10 years ago and went commercial, they used the commercial money to continue to develop the technology.

Given it was forked from NX/X2GO it definitely works better on Xorg than Wayland, it seems like Wayland support was added as an afterthought bolted on.

[–] mranderson17@infosec.pub 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What version of kde? I haven't tried it, or read about it beyond the changelog, however the latest beta release says that it supports RDP to connect to plasma desktops which is quite an interesting development if it works the way it sounds like it does:

Remote Desktop system integration to allow RDP clients to connect to Plasma desktops, plus a new page in System Settings for configuring this

For the "from anywhere" component you could use a vpn, but if you're looking for a simple solution with zero configuration than nomachine or rustdesk seem more appropriate. Just thought the RDP support was worth sharing.

[–] D_Air1@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It does and I'm beta testing plasma 6.1 now. I can confirm it is there. I'll have to give it a try later.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

gnomes own remote access solution is the one that works for me rn

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Thanks for the replies, I'm going for Rustdesk it's seem pretty good

[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully the team has smartened up a bit since these days

[–] JSens1998@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Were they just disabling Wayland instead of handling it properly? Is that what the code was doing?

[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but by editing config files 😐

[–] JSens1998@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Huge. Good stuff. Lol

[–] refalo@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's what rust looks like? Yikes. How do people put up with this?

[–] Para_lyzed@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Its syntax is incredibly similar to C++, the programming language it is targeting as a replacement. I don't really understand the confusion here; have you never used C++?

[–] refalo@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

have you never used C++

Only for 20 years

[–] Para_lyzed@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then I don't really understand the issue here. It's syntactically similar to C++ with the benefits of being memory safe. It's a different language, so there are different conventions and some different syntax of course, but that's to be said about any 2 languages; they are always different in some ways. I don't see a reason to complain about the aesthetic value of a language you don't know how to use, especially when it's similar to one that you seem to be using regularly.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Well, even moreso than it being hard to read, to me it's just ugly. So in that regard I don't think it really matters if I can understand it in the first place, if I just can't stand to look at it to begin with. Like it just makes me not even want to try. I get a similar vibe with Ruby as well.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

Not great for Wayland

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I only found RustDesk recently and it's awesome.

[–] gerdesj@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Rustdesk is pretty decent and being developed quite fast. Why not look at MeshCentral too. Choice is good and MC has been around for a fair old while.

My company replaced Teamviewer with MC and we have thousands of client machines across the UK.

[–] INeedMana@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

If you want to access your computer from outside your LAN, it would be a good idea to at least secure it or, unfortunately the best, learn to understand what you are doing

Coming back to the topic, though, I'd start with checking these out

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 5 points 5 months ago

So you want to remote desktop into your computer?

That would be served by wayvnc which is a service.

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

The only success I've had to connect to my wayland desktop was with Gnome, (at the time, it only worked if I was already logged in, though there was an extension that let you overcome a locked desktop). Once in, it worked well. Sort of. Had no luck with KDE, though that may have changed. VNC gave me no end of difficulty so I gave up.

All in all, a bit of a fiasco. YMMV - I'm sure my own incompetence was to blame (but should it not be... easier?)

[–] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 1 points 5 months ago

I've heard good things about RustDesk. Very similar to TeamViewer.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

KDE and Gnome both have this feature built in.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

On what exactly? They both have desktop sharing (RDP) built in.

On gnome and gnome based desktops you can turn it on in sharing

[–] refalo@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I didn't know it existed, or what it was called, or how to use it.

It seems Gnome 42 introduced it, which is not available in Debian stable.

They're really using RDP though? That is shocking to me. What does that say about all the other options that were available?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago

FreeRDP is the most performent and secure

[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

https://apps.kde.org/krdc/ Last time I tried it it was crashing and couldn’t remember permission to use input across sessions, but it was a while, there could be some improvements

[–] Kyouki@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Rustdesk vouch.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 months ago

What is it you'd like to do? You might be able to do it with ssh