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    submitted 6 months ago by sag@lemm.ee to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 156 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    I find having an operating system is bloat.

    [–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 105 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Magnetised needle and a steady hand is all you need.

    [–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 6 months ago 
    M-x butterfly
    [–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    I just use butterflies.

    [–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 6 months ago

    there is an emacs command for that

    [–] devilish666@lemmy.world 99 points 6 months ago (8 children)
    • KDE is the best if you want customize without editing yaml or xml or you just new to Linux
    • XFCE, LXDE, MATE, & CINNAMON are the best if you have very old system but still want to have some customization.
    • I3, SWAY, & OPENBOX are the best if you feel need little bit challenge to customize
    • NO GUI (CLI) is the best if you feel DE is bloat or systemd is bloat or wanna feel like Hollywood movie hackers
    [–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    KDE has a really nice suite of applications and utilities. No other desktop environment really compares on that level (and Amarok is back!).

    XFCE &etc are also good if you are running lightweight hardware (not just old hardware) but still want a desktop environment.

    CLI is best for servers and remotely managed/headless systems.

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 14 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    KDE has crazy complex apps like Krita, digiKam, KDEnlive, Kate, Konqueror, etc etc.

    They went more minimal and dedicated over time

    Amarok -> Elisa, Kasts

    Konqueror -> Dolphin, Falkon/"just use Firefox"

    I dont get why we have Gwenview, Kolourpaint, Spectacle edit and digiKam though, this feels absurd

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    [–] dan@upvote.au 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    and Amarok is back

    Was Amarok gone?

    I used to use it maybe 16-17 years ago even though I used GNOME rather than KDE. It was the best music player I'd found on Linux.

    I'm finally switching back to Linux so I'll have to try it out again! These days I usually use Plexamp though.

    [–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Development was dead for years, so dead that it wasn't included in new release repositories

    Clementine was a fork that was pretty good, but I think had more ambitions than active developers.

    Strawberry later forked from Clementine and is still being developed, and they're doing well, but they aren't building on the KDE framework.

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    [–] devilish666@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago (3 children)
    • GNOME is the best if you have touchscreen desktop
    • BUDGIE is the best if you want to feel like using windows 10
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    [–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I think latly, especially in plasma 6, KDE got as viable on old machines as XFCE and surly mint and cinnamon.

    [–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I brought my KDE idle RAM usage down to 500MB just by using the GUI options that come with it. That's about the same amount a default Xfce or LXQt needs.

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    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

    Ever since KDE made their software more modular with Plasma 5 / Frameworks 5, a Plasma session can be cut down by a lot. Personally, I don't think it matters much because as soon as you browse the web, the RAM demands of the web browser dwarf that of even a fully decked out desktop anyway, but the options are there – perhaps for certain use cases that don't involve web browsing.

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    [–] dkc@lemmy.world 71 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    After decades of using different window managers, fixing broken configs with major updates, fretting about multi monitor config etc I started using GNOME. It might not look as sleek but I’m a lot more productive now.

    In the end I’m just glad we have so many choices.

    [–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I feel this, Gnome and it's opinionated workflow just "gets out of the way" in my experience

    [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago

    I went with XFCE for similar reasons. I played with various DEs at one point but after a while I realized I mostly just need an icon to click on to start the application I want to use.

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    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    The KDE to GNOME should have been "imagine not having standard min max window titlebar buttons by default" with each following DE dunking on GNOME for the same reason.

    Seriously, what degenerate thought this was a good idea. Even gesture spamming Mac users still have their standard GUI in case they want to use the mouse like a normal person or idk someone not fluent in computers wants to use the machine without feeling like chopping their hand off.

    [–] knolord@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

    I fully agree. Why do I have to install gnome-tweaks just to make the UI usable?

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    [–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 42 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (15 children)

    Honestly the lack of customizability is the least of my worries with Gnome.

    Why the FUCK doesn't it have a SYSTEM TRAY without an extension?

    Like it's one thing to be minimalistic and opinionated.

    It's another thing entirely to opt out of basic system functionality that has been part of every OS since 1997. Like fuck.

    Edit: Also how fun that this is how I find out Hyprland is cooked due to internet drama and 4chan bullshit.

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    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 33 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Can someone fill me in about "Hyprland being banned from FreeDesktop"?

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 48 points 6 months ago

    It's just a young adult miss managing their community as they learn how to run a big project for the first time.

    We all made asses out of our selves when we were young and most of us have outgrown it.

    [–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    surprise surprise: terminally online risers with 4chan lvl takes export their toxicity to everything they touch. thus get rightly hammered

    https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-enforcement.html

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    [–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 6 months ago

    KDE is my GOAT

    [–] Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Imagine having only one big task (displaying text) and not even supporting ligatures.

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    [–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 26 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    What are the icons for?

    I know gnome, and the 3 that have their name in the logo (xfce, sway, tty).

    I’m going back to Slackware. Can’t keep up with this shit any more.

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 29 points 6 months ago

    LXQt: continuation of LXDE with Qt

    Hyprland: tiling/floating wayland-only window manager

    Sway: same but slower and not controversial

    Wayfire: floating/stacking window manager, used in RasperryPiOS

    Alacritty: a terminal, in Rust, that lacks all the stuff that Desktop Terminals have, but it is aaaaaacccellerated

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    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    Anyone praising GNOME can be dismissed if they forget to define client-side decorations for their comment.

    (this comment was made by The Entire Desktop *nix Ecosystem Except GNOME gang)

    [–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Cinnamon is neat. That's it

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    [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    wait hyprland is banned from freedesktop? what???

    [–] governorkeagan@lemdro.id 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    The maintainer is banned - context

    [–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

    Don't know who this person is but I have a hard time taking him seriously calling people children while reading out the emails like I high schooler dishing gossip and dismissing transphobic moderators as a "whoops"

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    [–] Jackie_meaiii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    incostimizible

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    [–] exu@feditown.com 19 points 6 months ago

    I remember a HackerNews comment by the lead XFCE dev about how KDE was actually better optimized, because they have so many more devs working on it.

    [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

    Is this some GUI thing I'm too CLI to understand?

    [–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    "Calling out" gnome for needing extensions for customization seems stupid when those extensions are easy to find, easy to use, and work really well. On the other hand, I have not been able to find a taskbar for plasma that would let me group windows from an application together while also letting me rearrange the windows inside of a group. I know I need to try implementing it myself someday, but I feel like gnome ends up having more options.

    [–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It's not about how many extensions there are. It's about half of them breaking with each new version. Unless you like outdated systems, in which case you are fine.

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    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    imagine being so uncustomizable that you’re customizable

    Isn’t really a good argument, even though this is silly

    [–] leo85811nardo@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

    Extensions are not equivalent to native customization, and both have pros and cons. On one hand, extensions provide a variety of features that can be added specific to people's likings, but on the other hand, there are chances of incompatibility (in gnome shells for example) and delayed maintenance from developers (which results in having to wait for them to finish the work when dependency updates)

    [–] DriftinGrifter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 6 months ago

    nah gnome should be a lot more open from the get-go and its screensharing is crap

    [–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Extensions break every update. Native customization doesn't unless something dumb happened.

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