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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 90 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The top one deserves to be highlighted as well.

What if you worked 20 years for the same employer before that?

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The bottom part too, considering all this stupid shit is for a part-time position.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just realized how much worse it actually is. A part-time job that requires you to sign a Non-Compete Agreement.

[–] AThing4String@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

OMG you're right - the fact that this is a lot of for a part time job wasn't lost on me, but a NON-COMPETE for a part-time job?? Like WTF else are you supposed to do?

Delusional??

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I mean they are using astrology as a means to assess potential candidates. This doesn't strike me as the decision of someone who is grounded in reality.

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 15 points 6 months ago

My sister ran into that - got let go from her first job, which she had worked at for 10 years. She just provides references from that job, and no one brought it up.

[–] Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just give them the number of 3 friends (who are in on it ofc.)

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah I’ve been references for many friends. Usually they don’t call and if they do it’s chill.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Other than the crazy horoscope stuff, a job wanting you to sign an NDA and a Non-Compete likely know they are a shitty place to work and won't to keep you there so you can't go somewhere else and also not able to tell anyone how shitty it is. They probably already know Non-Competes in California have been unenforceable for a long time but they don't want you to know that.

[–] Einstein@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Didn't the Feds just recently make non competes unenforceable?

[–] Kid_Thunder@kbin.social 30 points 6 months ago

Yes but in California they have been unenforceable for almost everyone for many years.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 3 points 6 months ago

I think not just that, they mandate employers to tell you they are.

This might be, but definitely should be, illegal.

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They review you based on a fucking horoscope?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Horoscopes have a higher chance of getting me a job than those stupid ass "personality tests" though

[–] yuri@pawb.social 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

that sounds like a fighting game combo

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago

Wait they aren't asking for a combination horoscope personality test?

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Not a protected class but listed as part of the requirements, sounds like a constructive way of refusing or dismissing persons they don’t want for reasons that are protected

[–] Ballistic_86@lemmy.world 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I did a lot of job applying recently. Many employers were never considered after I was made aware of how their application process worked. It got to the point where if they made me fill out a form of info that was already on my resume, I wouldn’t apply.

If it takes 10 steps to even get some AI bullshit to read my resume, imagine the nightmare working for the company.

I was hired at company that had an easy application process, interviewed me in-person the next day, and I was offered the job 3 days later (2 were the weekend). Even though the job offered less pay than I value myself at, I knew it was a company worth working for.

[–] MudSkipperKisser@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I was just talking with my mom about this and had no idea… is AI really taking over the job application process? It was hard enough going through it when there were actual humans evaluating you, somehow this sounds way worse though

[–] Ballistic_86@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Sadly this has been used for longer than you might expect. Using the term AI to describe the practice is fairly new, but computers have been selecting resumes for humans to look at for many years. They may have called it “screening” or using an “algorithm” -made more complex with the wide adoption of LLMs and other types of AI tools.

You can find stories of colleges and companies getting in trouble for unintentionally racist algorithms from, at least, a decade ago. That would indicate that they have been in use for longer than that, potentially since the early 00s.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The fun thing about bs hiring practices like astrology is how it's bs and can be used as cover for discrimination.

"Sorry, it's not that you're brown....it's that you're a Pisces..."

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

it's that you're a Pisces

This explains a lot for me...

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

I would never apply for a job wanting to ask for something so ridiculous like my horoscope.

But then, as a Pisces, I'm naturally skeptical.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

aren't noncompete agreements illegal in California now?

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The funny thing about the way the law works is that it's only illegal if you get caught.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I wonder if you could apply to this job; interview; get the job; sign the NDA; then sue the company for making you sign an NDA and quit.

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago

This looks like age discrimination in disguise

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

IANAL, but I think non-competes are illegal in Cali.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 31 points 6 months ago

They're illegal federally now.

Thanks Biden's FTC

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

NDAs are also very restrictive in what's covered. Non-competes are banned across the country now.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I agree, non-competes are illegal in California and some_guy does ANAL

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago

With gusto!

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure this could be considered religious discrimination

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm sure star sign is not a protected class but you could make a pretty good case that it 1) cannot be changed, and 2) falls under a "strongly held belief" or whatever it is in California.

It would get really messy if they were applying to work in a crystal healing place. Make it into a bonified qualification fight, etc.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago

Children of different religions tend to be born at different times because their conception tends to happen on religious holidays.

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

So the hands on interview is a tarot reading?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

"Part-time"

Jfc

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't even get to step 2

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I've got one. The others are retired or dead.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 6 points 6 months ago

Applying for nutjobs?

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought non-competes were not applicable in California?

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good point, I was thinking of even before that FTC declaration though.

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

Yes, they were not legal in Cali. That didn't stop employers from trying to force you to sign one though.

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Maybe if it was full time but for part time?

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Fuck that. Get a job through your friends and family.

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