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Why do people dislike California? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by arcrust@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I recently moved to California. Before i moved, people asked me "why are you moving there, its so bad?". Now that I'm here, i understand it less. The state is beautiful. There is so much to do.

I know the cost of living is high, and people think the gun control laws are ridiculous (I actually think they are reasonable, for the most part). There is a guy I work with here that says "the policies are dumb" but can't give me a solid answer on what is so bad about it.

So, what is it that California does (policy-wise) that people hate so much?

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[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Antennas

You're selling sexism
You're selling racism
You're selling anything you get your fucking hands on
An understanding, you got a plan in a
Presentation to advertisers who demand it
When you plan that
Your antennas are pointed in the right direction
You make a deal in any situation
So with no evacuation
Let California fall into the fucking ocean
Oh they talk to ya, oh you're the town man
High profile Hollywood scum-bag
It's a done deal, signed and sealed
Deal makers making it all happen
When you plan that
Your antennas are pointed in the right direction
You make a dead in any situation
So with no evacuation
Let California fall into the fucking ocean
Let California fall into the fucking ocean!
Let California fall into the fucking ocean!
Let California fall into the fucking ocean!!!

-Tim Armstrong/Rancid

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[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

i just think a lot of the architecture is ugly af

[–] bouncing@partizle.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It sort of depends on where you are, but in San Francisco and Los Angeles, the homeless problem is noticeably worse than almost anywhere else in America. It’s bad.

An ex of mine lives in a pretty posh part of LA (Crestview). She works constantly and really hard to afford to live there. Now there are people literally shooting heroin on the street outside her home and to take her toddler to play at the park, they’re basically walking around the bodies of people high/sleeping.

I mean, I’m as anti-drug war as they come, but that’s no way to live and the police really should clear it out. Even in the poorer parts of most other cities, that’s not something you see.

[–] gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I understand, the problem stems from the fact that places like skid row provide infrastructure to help homeless people, so more homeless move there to get at least basic healthcare, food etc.

If all larger cities did that instead of repressive measures, the problem should spread among them, making single places less problematic.

[–] bouncing@partizle.com 0 points 1 year ago

Well, that's always been the case with Skid Row, though it might be debatable which came first -- the homeless encampments or the aid agencies. And for that matter, there were Hoovervilles in the Great Depression. In any city in America, there are transients milling around the shelters, which is why there's so much NIMBYism over developing new shelters.

But what's going on in California probably has more to do with the fact that LA and San Francisco tend to be very tolerant of the homeless encampments and provide generous aid, thus inducing demand. The homeless population is soaring across America for various reasons, but California is a desirable place to be homeless: better aid, better climate, softer police, etc.

Maybe California's big cities really are more humane and generous, but at this point it's to the detriment of livability in those places.

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone -1 points 1 year ago

The problem with California is that it's in the USA. A country with many problems. Compared to other developed countries, anywhere inside the USA is bad.

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