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[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In one hand I want the Nvidia quasi monopoly to end. On the other hand it might bankrupt AMD on its way.

[–] dlove67@feddit.nl 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Be hard to bankrupt AMD when their CPUs make them tons of money.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Be hard to bankrupt AMD when their CPUs make them tons of money.

And for the time being, AMD offers the best CPU-iGPU combination. Intel is still lagging behind on GPU tech and NVidia has no x86 CPU -- even though the most important patents expire in two years, I don't think NVidia will make an x86 CPU without the more modern extensions that are still patented.

[–] dlove67@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Best cpu+igpu yes, but not only that. In the server realm they're doing incredibly well. EPYC remains unmatched by anything Intel has.

ARM has a future in servers too, but for a lot of companies it isn't there yet (personally, I hope it never is and they go to RISC-V instead but yeah).

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In one hand I want the Nvidia quasi monopoly to end.

NVidia has no monopoly in the PC space. Intel + AMD combined far outnumber NVidia GPUs overall, NVidia just has certain niche markets where they dominate with high profit margins but that's not what this story is about.

[–] nodiet@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If we are talking gaming (which by no means is a niche market), nvidia absolutely dominates the GPU market. The steam survey reports a market share of 75% for nvidia gpus

[–] dack@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They also dominate compute. There's still a lot of software that depends on CUDA.

[–] nodiet@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah absolutely. Doing GPU parallel computing for many people is synonymous with using CUDA.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

They also dominate compute.

Yes, "certain niche markets where they dominate with high profit margins".

[–] brsrklf@compuverse.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Consoles have had AMD chipsets for decades, and still do. Well, except the Switch.

[–] nodiet@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

We are talking about the PC space here, though.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we are talking gaming (which by no means is a niche market), nvidia absolutely dominates the GPU market. The steam survey reports a market share of 75% for nvidia gpus

Gaming also compromises Candy Crush and Wordle which are not on Steam. The article is about a low-cost GPU, not a 4080 competitor.

[–] nodiet@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would claim that most people that need a dedicated GPU for gaming are using steam

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I would claim that most people that need a dedicated GPU for gaming are using steam

True but you said "If we are talking gaming (which by no means is a niche market), nvidia absolutely dominates the GPU market". So gaming in general which includes the massive number of casuals playing simple web games and that's what I was replying to. Gaming with dedicated GPU is a niche market compared to the sheer size of the overall PC market which has an installed base of literally billions of devices in use. So again: NVidia has no monopoly.

[–] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Intel GPU press releases are historically horse shit. No matter what the claim, they always underdeliver.

[–] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

For me and my workflow they deliver better drivers on Linux than nvidia and that's all I care about. If they can be less expensive than an AMD gpu as well then I'll probably get one

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

You may say that, but before all this, we have nothing at all.

Their Linux drivers are pretty good.

[–] Darklotus@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need more competition in the mid to low market, under $150 and your only option is the 1030 that's worse than a 6 yo mid range card like the rx570.

[–] Daefsdeda@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly, at the price point you're better off 2nd hand

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

I think competition is healthy, so I'm all for it. I hope that Intel throws their hat into the affordable local AI ring.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

“Affordable” ROFL sure thing pal

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How good do Intel GPUs work with (Arch) Linux?

[–] twoolie@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Pretty well I reckon. Intel is very proactive in upstreaming their graphics drivers. Just make sure you're on a recent kernel with up to date Mesa libraries. Their OpenGL drivers aren't very fast for gaming, but Zink on Vulkan apparently runs well according to Phoronix

[–] Osirus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I ll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert...

I welcome more competition in the GPU space. Intel is also doing a good job contributing to Mesa.