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So after we've extended the virtual cloud server twice, we're at the max for the current configuration. And with this crazy growth (almost 12k users!!) even now the server is more and more reaching capacity.

Therefore I decided to order a dedicated server. Same one as used for mastodon.world.

So the bad news... we will need some downtime. Hopefully, not too much. I will prepare the new server, copy (rsync) stuff over, stop Lemmy, do last rsync and change the DNS. If all goes well it would take maybe 10 minutes downtime, 30 at most. (With mastodon.world it took 20 minutes, mainly because of a typo :-) )

For those who would like to donate, to cover server costs, you can do so at our OpenCollective or Patreon

Thanks!

Update The server was migrated. It took around 4 minutes downtime. For those who asked, it now uses a dedicated server with a AMD EPYC 7502P 32 Cores "Rome" CPU and 128GB RAM. Should be enough for now.

I will be tuning the database a bit, so that should give some extra seconds of downtime, but just refresh and it's back. After that I'll investigate further to the cause of the slow posting. Thanks @veroxii@lemmy.world for assisting with that.

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[–] Saturn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m glad to hear about the new users (I myself am one.) and the server upgrades!

I think lemmy.world suits me better than Beehaw. (great folks over there, no shade)

I like that lemmy.world let’s communities be openly created by users, as well as the inclusion of downvoting which I personally prefer.

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] ZeeKay@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just curious, what sort of hardware is lemmy.world using/moving to? Wondering if there's a good way to predict load based on number of users.

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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] hddsx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] alizard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thankyou for everything!

[–] Someology@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for you work on this! What is the planned time for the outage?

[–] ilikedatsyuk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for everything you're doing. I signed up for Patreon to contribute!

[–] figaro@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] FlaxPicker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Itd be cool to get donation flare!

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can! β˜‘οΈ or βœ…. The Patreon page mentioned that you're officially allowed to edit your username to add flair when you donate. I upgraded to $8/month specifically so I could add the flair, but then got cold feet about the idea. πŸ˜€

[–] FlaxPicker@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Nice! Why the cold feet? Just curious.

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[–] Proko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for all you do @ruud@lemmy.world. You’re doing great!

[–] mango@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I don't understand why a dedicated server is a good idea, when the only true way to scale is to use like Kubernetes or Docker and ECS Containers with scale?

Your just gonna run into more problems, you cannot vertically scale forever.

[–] Zenryoku@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you very much! πŸ₯³

[–] ClumsyAssassin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just joined. Thank you so much for your effort!

[–] Raitontime@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

More power! More power is good.

[–] fudrummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

@ruud@lemmy.world DM me if you need help setting up monitoring/alerting on server health. IRL I'm on an SRE team, so happy to help where I can!

[–] skipseagull@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] lrabbt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's my admin!

[–] api@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone looking to host something big should check out bare metal hosting like Datapacket, Reliablesite, FDCServers, etc. Down side is total lack of handholding and other cloud features and the fact that you can't scale up without redeploying on a new box, but the upside is ridiculously cheap bandwidth. The bandwidth cost is by size of pipe, not gigabyte transferred, and pipes upwards of 10gbps are affordable.

OVH and Hetzner are also worth looking at but aren't quite as cheap bandwidth-wise.

[–] ruud@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

With Hetzner Dedicated server the bandwidth is free

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

12k ??? That's crazy! It was only 500 when I joined 6 days ago, wow!

No worries for the downtime, when it's needed, it's needed :)

[–] LazyGamer1111@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

probably mostly due to the reddit situation. at least thats why im here now

[–] LordSoren@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

May Reddit crash and burn. I'm part of the reddit exodus and the look of Lemmy is close to what I used to get in RedditIsFun (RiF). Going to take some getting used to but so far so good.

[–] notsorryforpartying@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how its being done as far as the technical aspects but Ruud has done a great job as admin upgrading the servers to keep up and anticipating the flow of new users.

The same admin also has experience with a mastadon.world server that experienced lots of growth from Twitter users leaving over musk moves. So essentially we have a good admin as far as I can tell and it's not his first rodeo. Part of the reason I chose this server

I'm less concerned with the technical aspects and more curious about the long term.

Federated instances, such as lemmy.world, are operated by individuals; What happens if they decide to stop doing so without handing the server/data off to someone else? Do all of our accounts created here disappear? What do other users see if they click through my profile from a post on a different federated server? What happens to all of the content created on the server in question?

[–] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would be awesome if you create some group chat (e.g. Discord?) and add sysadmins/devops to it. Would be more than happy to assist, especially if you have questions or need opinions.

I've been working as sre/sysadmin/devops for the past ~5 years and ~9 years of (Arch) Linux user. More than 1K Arch Wiki edits over that period of time.

[–] GatoB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit is for Lemmy as Discord is for Spacebar (works with Discord) https://github.com/spacebarchat/spacebarchat

[–] ShadowCatEXE@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What's the operating cost? Thank you, for running this server! :)

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