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Let's say you are dying of starvation. You pull one of your teeth out, causing blood to slowly seep into your mouth, which you swallow. The calories from the blood getting digested will delay the time you die of starvation, right? Or will losing blood while starving kill you faster?

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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 65 points 7 months ago

If you have calories in your blood, you should leave them in there to get used instead of taking them out and back in. You wouldn’t be adding usable energy, you already had it.

You have energy stored in fat and muscle, but your body already is going to try and consume those without all that added stress of eating yourself from the outside.

[–] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago

That would be akin to running a hose out of your car's gas tank and back in. You'd use some gas for the pumping and add none back in the process.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 29 points 7 months ago

You can never, ever get a net gain from self cannibalism of any kind. Digesting takes energy, and you're also having to heal/replace whatever it is you're eating.

Besides, the amount of blood that will come from a pulled tooth isn't enough to do anything useful. You wouldn't even gain minutes from it if the source was external.

[–] MisterCurtis@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Something to consider is that your body relies on blood glucose as its primary energy source. During starvation, glucose levels are severely depleted. This triggers your body to start using stored fatty acids. All remaining glucose is reserved for the brain to use.

By removing blood from your body and moving it to your stomach, you're essentially moving that precious energy to an organ that can't as readily make it available to the tissues that need it.

Thanks to the thermic effect, it also takes energy to digest and metabolize food. You'd be expending extra energy to digest the blood that was already in your body, where it was perfectly content carrying usable energy where it was needed.

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I thought you can't digest more than a little bit of blood because of the amount of iron in it. And you're likely to start vomiting.

And if you lose too much blood, it'll kill you much more quickly anyways.

And of course if you lose blood and have to replenish it... That takes a good amount of extra energy to produce all the blood cells etc. And digestion also costs energy.

[–] cygnosis@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

It wouldn't delay your death. But it would make it more pleasant. You would most likely pass out from low blood pressure pretty quickly and then you wouldn't have to worry about starving any more.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I've read a story of a 3 year old that had to have his tonsils removed. The poor child didn't understand that it's not good to swallow so much blood, didn't know enough to tell his parents what was up, and he unfortunately passed away, with a belly full of blood ☹️

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 7 points 7 months ago

This seems like an urban legend

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely not true. Wherever you read it is full of malarkey. I would go so far as to say it is impossible, since your be vomiting unless you were still drugged. It would take sedatives to keep you under long enough to swallow that much, and you can still vomit while sedated.

You also don't die from a full belly by itself.

Then, there's the fact that the stomach takes up some degree of water during digestion, and is breaking down any solids that it can break down along the way. You'd have to literally chug the blood to get enough in at once to distend the stomach, and no tonsillectomy produces that much blood.

Almost every single modern procedure uses some kind of cautery to stop bleeding, and the few that don't still take steps to do so.

Anyone, especially a small child, bleeding enough to die from swallowing it, would never be sent home. That's a sign of a major problem apart from the surgery.

And that's ignoring how much blood loss that would be. Even if swallowed, the amount needed to cause death wouldn't fill the stomach in a small child. Even in a bigger child, the stomach is bigger too, so you run into issues with realism there.

Tonsilectomies are done all around the world, and have been for ages. While complications can happen, this simply isn't one of them.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Here's one documented case of an 8 year old girl from last year, and it took about 6 days of bleeding before she was pronounced brain dead...

https://www.wbir.com/article/news/health/child-faces-fatal-health-issues-after-simple-procedure/51-d9385f6b-f3f8-4c22-b0d4-72c2130f1d62

I can't quite find the much older story of the 3 year old toddler though, but it was essentially the same thing, and took about a week of health decline before he passed. Nobody knew the toddler was swallowing the blood until the autopsy ☹️

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The poor child didn't understand that it's not good to swallow so much blood

It sounds like the swallowing wasn't the problem, the bleeding was. The swallowing just masked the true symptom, the bleeding, from being observed by others.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago