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Its a bit old, but I just learned it via the retro-dodo article here: https://retrododo.com/google-is-killing-retro-dodo/

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[–] HopingForBetter@lemmy.today 90 points 7 months ago (2 children)

ChatGPT4: tl;dr The universe is bigger than we thought.

ChatGPT5: fuck spez

[–] Player2@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wrong company, it would be Gemini in this case

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[–] Rayspekt@lemmy.world 60 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Is it just me or are 60 million a ridiculously small price for that whole dataset?

[–] bobburger@fedia.io 68 points 7 months ago (6 children)

To be fair it's a pretty terrible dataset. The AI is just going to say "this" to every question you ask

[–] rarkgrames@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago
[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Shimon@slrpnk.net 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 16 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Perhaps, but not worth buying if you can't make profit or keep it from your competition.

60M is for over almost 20 years of data, but once it's ingested, google will only want new content. Next year, it'll be more like 3M if the dataset isn't poisoned by bots or the AI fad hasn't collapsed. Reddit will struggle with finances again and users will suffer. At least that's my prediction.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Spez has already grifted his money out of the initial stock pump so it literally doesn't matter. Reddit could shut down tomorrow and he'd be happy as a clam.

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[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 12 points 7 months ago

I wonder if Google's unlimited legal budget plays a role. Not a lawyer, so probably way off here...

But, for example, reddit's success in part depends on Google ingesting their data


reddit shows up in Google searches all the time, which can only happen if Google uses reddit's content. So reddit telling Google "you can't use our content" doesn't work, and they need to say something like, "you can use our content for search results but you can't consume it as training data."

This is a pretty straightforward statement/request/demand, but one could imagine Google lawyers maliciously complying and throwing their hands up dramatically, claiming "well we use some amount of AI in our search results, so if we can't use your content for AI training then we can't risk using it for search results." Which would, I imagine, really, really hurt reddit (no Google results would be catastrophic I suspect).

So, perhaps the "low" 60M figure is just Google using their leverage.

Or not. As a random person on the Internet, I can say I'm probably not contributing anything meaningful here...

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

How quickly you forget that half of it is just "I also choose this guy's wife" and "the narwhal bacon's at midnight"

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[–] dabu@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Can't wait to see an AI chatbot in my Google searches that behaves like a typical redditor.

[–] bobburger@fedia.io 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Every thing you google is just going to direct you to a link to let me google that for you

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

I love that site.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 7 months ago

"Hey Google AI, could you help me find a way to do _____?"

"Why the hell would you want that? Are you stupid? There's like 15 better ways to accomplish what I think your peanut brain is trying to accomplish."

"... nevermind Google."

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Google: "I'm looking to make an AI that's incredibly opinionated, confidently incorrect, and prone to circlejerk behaviors."

Spez: "I mean OpenAI pretty much did that already, but if you want to pay me to recreate that then I got you."

[–] GorGor@startrek.website 6 points 7 months ago

One thing that doesn't seem to get brought up is the AI porn angle. Gonewild is pretty big on reddit still. A lot of OnlyFans creators, and general perverts (respect). Reddit wants to commodify this content, so those people are selling the images of their bodies so AI can make porn of random strangers. Kinda fucked when you think about it.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

AI be like “stfu regard”

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 23 points 7 months ago

Steve Huffman looks increasingly douchier and shittier with every passing photo.

What a damn chode. Fuck that guy.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.social 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Oh no, my thousands of identical messages!

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You sir are a scholar and a gentleman.

I also choose this man's wife.

[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Plasma@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

Scrolled too far down to find this

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[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And this is how Skynet was born.

That one Microsoft Twitter bot turned into a full blown Nazi in just one day.

I can't even imagine how fucked up and depraved one trained on Reddit data will get.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They have a series of safeguards against that now. They've actually taken it in the extreme other direction now where it can't give you anything without injecting diversity in there somewhere.

Here's an example. This is what it produced when asking for an image of a German soldier in 1943.

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[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Can someone point me the way of that bot or whatever that changes all your old Reddit posts before deleting them? I thought I had it saved somewhere but I can't find it now and have no idea what it's called.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

They keep copies of posts because people who mass edited their posts saw them reverted or have people reply still as if they were not edited.

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[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I hope AI sais fuck Spez a lot:-)

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[–] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I deleted my comment history after the API exodus. I'm sure they could dig it up if they wanted but at least they'll have to click like 3 more buttons if they want to train AI on my nonsense.

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 11 points 7 months ago

As part of the deal, spez will personally train the AI Jailbait Model.

[–] Aquila@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago

60m? Ms got a steal no wonder Reddit can’t monetize

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 9 points 7 months ago

They can have my drunk shitposts. Jokes on them for buying my garbage.

[–] Granite@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago

Grateful this is no longer my problem

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (6 children)

is there a way to mass delete my old content? the service i used in the past doesn't seem to have worked. i recently got a reply from a 6 year-old post from someone saying they got there on google.

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[–] SonicDeathTaco@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

*your posts

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 7 months ago

Welp... Time to nuke it all.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's not great news when weighed against my desire to watch reddit crash and burn.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

All we can do is make something better, reddit will do their thing and we will do ours.

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

I wonder how they will decide how to dole that out to their contributors… oh, wait.

[–] MichaelTen@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Minimum royalty laws should exist.

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