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[–] tyler@programming.dev 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ranked choice is quite terrible actually, barely better than Plurality (also known as FPTP). The center for election science has a whole article on it here. https://electionscience.github.io/vse-sim/

3-2-1 voting and STAR are the best choices, but the CES actually advocates for approval due to logistics and people getting confused by 321 and star.

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

No employee, owner, shareholder, investor, contractor, etc. can make more than 50 times the amount of the lowest paid employee, contractor, supplier employee, supplier's supplier employee, etc. (Including all of the foreign slaves).

Tim Cook wants to earn 50M per year? Then all of those Foxconn guys that they need nets to stop from suiciding need to make at least 1M. All of the guys making chips have to make 1M. All of the guys mining coal to produce the electricity have to make 1M.

Income inequality problems would be abated. "Dey took our yobs." would be less of a problem because you would save money by using local labor due to lower shipping costs. Poverty would eventually be eliminated.

Probably communism with extra steps, but maybe it would be less prone to party dictators.

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[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Decommodify housing as well

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (10 children)

How you gonna afford all the social schemes with no tax under $50K? I have "free" healthcare but it's 2% of my taxable income. The taxable brackets start at $18,200 ($11,880 USD) here. You'll need to ensure there is finance for social services else you'll be bringing harm to your society in the form of failed infrastructure.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Tax the rich

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (5 children)

dunno how you mandate people vote. the rest looks like an ambitious but overall laudable start.

[–] Winter8593@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Australia already does it

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 6 points 8 months ago

Dude I'm voting for you

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Honestly at this point the only thing you are keeping is the English language.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Why would a two party system implement ranked choice if everyone is stupid enough to keep voting for them? They're not going to shoot themselves in the foot.

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[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Ranked choice voting is clearly a better choice than plurality voting, but if you're not familiar with STAR voting, please check it out:

https://www.starvoting.org/star_rcv_pros_cons

https://youtu.be/oFqV2OtJOOg?si=pQ1R3wpPmzOcaO17.

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[–] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So, some of these are great. And some of them are so unrealistic they will NEVER happen in a trillion universes. I don't think it's healthy or productive to conflate great talking points with this crud because it just devalues the argument as a whole.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

i think your biggest problem is how you are getting any of this done with opposite financial incentives in the way without a literal revolution.

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Can you please create a community for this? I'd love to be able to discuss each point separately, and suggest others.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It all starts with the top - proportional representation.

It still amazes me that states have those proposition votea/referenda started by petitions and yet there isn't a movement to get proportional representation on the ballot? Or if there is it seems pretty quiet from outside the US.

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[–] AuroraZzz@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Should also include "tax the church"

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[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Convert corporations into Worker Consumer Cooperatives to prevent investor wealth accumulation and regulatory capture and align business towards worker and consumer interests rather than short-term profit seeking.

[–] CaptainProton@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

MANDATORY voting... Let's be real, we have people who are unable to read the candidates' personal statements, you really want them voting?

That'll be used to get President Camacho legislating Mandatory plant watering using Gatorade.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The way I see it, mandatory voting is to ensure that everyone is capable of voting. It prevents problems like employers not giving people appropriate time off for voting. The trade off is of course that you'll have people voting more or less at random, or just going with whatever candidates their tribe is voting for without thinking. I suspect the latter averages out to a much smaller effect.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think the actions on this list would improve economic conditions for the middle class.

I’ll just say if prostitution is legalized, then there needs to be something that ensures that someone isn’t coerced into it somehow, or sex trafficked into it.

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

It can't be regulated until it's legalized. Once it is it should be.

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[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It has no chance of becoming a reality without the help of moderates and liberals who have made it very clear they would rather lose to MAGA than compromise with leftists and progressives.

People have yet to acknowledge the first implications of this. If we believe the numbers of progressives and leftists are growing there will come a time when we begin winning primaries but will lose general elections consistently because moderates and liberals suddenly won't "vote blue no matter who". Which means fascism isn't just a possibility, it's guaranteed.

If moderates and liberals don't make different choices there's nothing we can do.

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[–] farsinuce@feddit.dk 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Thank you for this approximate description of most Nordic countries.

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