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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 117 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Implying human managers are held accountable.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Depends on the level of manager. DM at Walmart? You might as well not even have the title.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They can be held accountable, they just won't 99% of the time.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Why should they, when they can delegate that, amirite?

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Only when basic grunt scapegoats fail to repel the call for accountability, a management level unit is sacrificed.

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 88 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A computer can never find out. That is why a computer must never fuck around.

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Canadian airline is complaining about finding out when their computer fucked around.

[–] degen@midwest.social 46 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Not accountable? But I thought they did math?

[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

Accountingable

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago
[–] Norgur@fedia.io 2 points 10 months ago

And they are very countable.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Now do corporations!

[–] Toes@ani.social 9 points 10 months ago

GPT: Hold my beer!

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I disagree.

Machines are made by humans, and can be built responsibly.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 10 points 10 months ago

But then the one who is to be held accountable is the human who made it, or the human who used it.

When a plane crashes it isnt the planes fault either.

[–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but even machines that are "built responsibly" (whatever that may mean) can make mistakes. Correction: they will make mistakes, because decision making isn't linear, and afaik computers are only good at linear tasks, such as calculations. And once they do, who should be held accountable? The AI's creator? The person/company who accepted whatever decision the AI made? Or nobody? When people are deciding, it's a bit easier to know who to blame. But how do you do it when the decision is by an algorithm?

And sure, maybe AI's can help in decision making, but shouldn't decisions be made by people in the end?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

And sure, maybe AI’s can help in decision making, but shouldn’t decisions be made by people in the end?

It depends on what decision you're looking at.

[–] OrnateLuna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What does being held accountable even mean? Punishment? Or just removeval of their services bc well machines can be removed from service.

If a machine stops working we hold it "accountable" by servicing it or throwing it out. Plus there are plenty machines that make decisions and we use the without much fuss

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

Exactly. Responsibility doesn't mean that you go to jail. It means that you fix your mistakes.