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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

I feel like WhatsApp should be in the middle. The app is terrible, but the messaging is actually encrypted. We paranoids also appreciate Signal, and Element disappointingly gets no play here.

Also:

*believes not every company is inherently evil*

It's kind of weird, then, how they all end up doing evil stuff, including the guys that explicitly set out with the philosophy "don't be evil".

We can all tell conservative is supposed to be the enlightened one, but unless the creator is using a very malice-driven definition of evil (as opposed to including accidental evil) this line is an own-goal.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Last I read, you can’t use WhatsApp without sharing your contacts. This helps Meta build its shadow profiles and keep tabs on folks not even using it. The metadata is also often just as valuable as the actual contents.

But eventually the “you’re the product” instance will dawn on ya.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck anything created by Facebook. It wouldn't surprise me if the EFF released an announcement today saying that Facebook always had a master encryption key and have hard records of every conversation ever had on WhatsApp. Actually, I'd be willing to bet real money that is the case, if there was any way to actually resolve that bet.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

It wouldn’t surprise me if the EFF released an announcement today saying that Facebook always had a master encryption key and have hard records of every conversation ever had on WhatsApp.

Literally not possible, from what I've read of the scheme involved. I haven't looked over it myself but I trust Open Whisper.

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[–] athlon@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I guess I am a cross between “Normie” and “Conservative”. I use macOS and Fedora daily, I watch MKBHD but also watch FOSS YouTubers. I use WhatsApp, but only because, in Netherlands, it’s impossible to live without it. I don’t use any Chromium, and I use Firefox, but I also use Safari.

Fuck getting labeled.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Tech conservative, apparently. Although fuck big tech, you can achieve the sake thing with decentralised federated services or blockchain (in some cases).

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

gotta check out luke smith

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[–] NothingSpecial@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Tech conservative. Still use Windows unfortunately.

[–] Ocelot@lemmies.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I run arch, have the latest iphone, watch MKBHD, amd use tor… so…. yeah i dunno

[–] OrangeXarot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the fuck is My Kebab Beats His Dad?!?

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[–] Vlixz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wish I could just ditch Windows and Whatsapp for something else....... I've tried Linux but every time I quickly wanted to do something it first took me 30/40 minutes to get it working :⁠'⁠( was driving me insane after the cool factor of daily driving Linux went away

[–] topRamen@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A lot of linux platforms are pretty plug and play now unless you're trying to get a programming running that wasn't built for Linux. That's why I think both Linux and proprietary operating systems have their place. Its just too bad not everyone makes their stuff for linux. It's definitely getting better though.

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[–] muix@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (11 children)

How long ago was that and what did you want to get working? In my experience anything I do has been smoother on modern Linux than on Windows.

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[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Somewhere between Normie and Tech conservative?

Real bummer that Signal decided to shit the bed.

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[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I think I'm somewhere in between two and three.

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