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I consistently hear people on YouTube complain that the subscribe button doesn't do anything for viewers, now that channel notifications are controlled by the bell. But it does do something: it puts the videos from that channel in your subscription feed, which is readily accessible on all versions of YouTube. So why do people act like it doesn't exist? I think it's super convenient, especially if you're subscribed to a ton of channels and don't want your notifications feed flooded with new videos.

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[–] normonator@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't rely on it at all because it likes to omit things I assume it thinks I won't like. Plenty of times I'll see a new video from a subscribed creator on the home tab to head over to subscriptions where I can't find it but see previous ones.

If it worked that would be great, instead I use third party apps to manage it and would just stop using YouTube if those tools were unavailable.

[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Newpipe or some of the other clients like it fetch youtube for channel data directly and aggrogate into a feed on your computer, verry clean way of doing it. Channel uploads by date is the last thing not AI controlled

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Too many subscriptions Not enough time

[–] uhauljoe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

i've had the same thought as you.

i regularly use the sub tab. i watch youtube on weekends while i clean, so usually on friday i'll check my home page a few times throughout the day, see if there are any interesting recommendations and save them to my watch later.

then in the evening i do one more home page scroll, then i slowly scroll my subs page and make sure i save anything that looks interesting to my watch later. then i might watch one or two videos from my WL that evening and i watch the rest (or what i can fit in) over the weekend.

I don't get the point of subbing to a channel if you aren't checking your subs tab. Like....that's why it's there lol bc the home page is a bunch of recommendations

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

How else you are supposed to know when creator posts a video?

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There was a period of time a few years ago (around whenever the bell was implemented, or perhaps caused the bell to be implemented) in which the subscription feed would often just not a show a video, or maybe it wouldn't show up until hours or even days later. I suspect for some people that made them suspicious of the subscription feed and more reliant on push notifications.

[–] ItzLiftin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't use the subscriptions feed that much, i often just watch something i search for or something that was recomended to me. But i still don't want to get notifications from the channels i subscribe to, so i have notifications disabled for Youtube.

I still see how the notification bell can be useful for people that want to get notifications from some channels only.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 4 points 1 year ago

How else can you use youtube??

[–] sheilzy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use the subscription feed. Definitely don't use the bell. Bell is so cumbersome where you get a email for a new video, then you get that pop-up preview on your browser, and push notifications on your mobile device. Too much for me, especially since I'm at a point where I subscribe to 600 channels or so, which makes it hard to play favorites. That's sort of what the bell is for I guess, determining whose content you value the most.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Man, the bell doesn't even fuckin' notify me of new shit. That was the point of subscribing in the first place: So I don't have to come and check the channel for new content all the time. It would just fucking tell me.

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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I use the rss feeds, so much better.

[–] Widowmaker_Best_Girl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude I've had that exact same thought. Like, yeah, the subscription is where everything is. I never use the regular home page, my bookmark for YouTube goes to my subscription.

There's zero need for me to use the bell. I never understood why people complained about videos not showing up, etc.

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[–] Captain_Shakespeare@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've found a new reason to use the subscribed page - it shows more videos per screen than the home screen, now that YouTube on Android TV has massively increased the preview panel to an absurd degree. There's barely any room for identifiers, just two or three video previews taking up the entire screen, like I've blown up a phone app on my TV. Wtf YouTube?

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[–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I used to rely on it, but with live streams and shorts it now looks like a junkyard. Now that I've moved to Piped that has filtering by content type (videos, streams, shorts) I find myself using it again.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel like the main page though for Youtube now is essentially just a subscription feed. I watch a random video on any fucking topic, and suddenly either that channel or that topic DOMINATES my main page. My kids watch videos on my account and now my home page is just filled with crappy minecraft/roblox youtuber videos and non-sensical kid's videogame content. Like, is there an r/all version of Youtube where I can just see what videos are popular and trending with everybody? Sometimes I just want out of my small world of interests and just want to see what kind of trash everybody else is getting into. Or has society lost its collective mind and the same shit my kids are watching just so happens to be the same crap that the rest of the world is watching? I feel like I tend to see hyper-specific videos that likely only I watch on there though, and seeing other people's home pages I can tell that they're getting individualized feeds as well, so I don't think it just so happens that I'm culturally aligned with the rest of the world.

[–] stratoscaster@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah there is. Open the left-hand navigation sidebar, and click on "trending" . The trending tab isn't as bad as it used to be but it's still bad.

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I subscribe to a few news channels and my Subscription feed is absolutely overrun by them. There's new videos basically every few minutes. It is sadly useless for me so I need to rely on the algorithm.

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

On iOS iPad, the subscription feed doesn’t update/refresh after watching a video. The video remains in the queue (same place), with the red progress bar showing that it’s been watched or partially watched. Pulling down to refresh does nothing. Plus, I don’t want to watch every video from every subscription.

So instead, I use the algorithm in a way that benefits me. I let it suggest videos to watch until I feel it’s lost its way. Then I have to go and find videos from my primary interest to get the algorithm back on track.

[–] NessD@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

My theory for the apparent need of "click the bell for notifications" is not that videos don't show up in the subscription feed but that most people just use the home page to get informed which does not show all content. My subscription feed worked without a hitch and not a single missed video since it's inception. I strongly believe most people just don't know about the subscription feed.

I use it. I have all notifications turned off, so that's how I keep up with my channels.

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