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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 60 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Unless it's for video editing, in which case Davinci Resolve is better, and it's free.

[–] EndHD@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago (9 children)

or photo editing, in which case GIMP is better, and it's FOSS

[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 68 points 10 months ago (6 children)

GIMPs UI is steaming hot pile of shit unfortunately. It's very powerful yes, but the UI is really hard to figure out.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] kautau@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I can’t wait for that steaming pile of hot UI garbage to be on the hottest of GUI toolkits that came out in 2011

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

GTK 3 ?? They've sure taken their sweet time with it

[–] Nanomerce@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

hasn't it been coming for like a million years

[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Can't say I agree.

That said, this probably isn't true if someone is transitioning from Photoshop, which is probably the context of this discussion. I have seen people who start with Gimp without knowing Photoshop and they got into it fairly quick.

Using Gimp and expecting the same logic and structure as Photoshop will indeed lead to initial difficulties.

I don't want to get into a war here. Am sure there's things more complicated in Gimp than PS, but also vice versa.

Either way, I know a number of people who do stunning work with Gimp in little time.

[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago

I often find this is the biggest obstacle with moving people to FOSS solutions. People want an alternative to Photoshop, so you show them Gimp, and they immediately get frustrated because they try to apply the logic and design philosophies of Photoshop to Gimp. People want an alternative to Windows, so you show them Linux, and they immediately get frustrated because they try to apply the logic and design philosophies of Windows to Linux. And then when it doesn't work the same way, then obviously that is a deficiency of the alternative, and not simply them having to learn a new way of doing things.

[–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's a project by Diolinux called PhotoGimp, which aims to make Gimp look like Photoshop. It also changes all the keybinds to match those of PS.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Sadly it hasn’t had a new release in 2 years. It will probably go the way of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop, which aimed to do the same before it was discontinued

[–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

Oh wow, I never noticed, and it's not even been two years since I've started using it. Whoops.

Well then, I'm gonna go try and figure out how to run Affinity in Wine.

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[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

Gimp 3.0 should help afiak

[–] EndHD@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

fortunately there's some great people making awesome tutorials!

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[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's sad to say but Photoshop smokes basically all of its competitors except the ones that get into a specificic niche, but even then stuff like illustrator and lightroom compete well in that marketplace.

Photoshop may not be FOSS but it may as well be considered free due to the rampant piracy. I frequently recommend it forgetting it's a subscription based Ad*be made product.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

illustrator doesn't. Inkscape rocks

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[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

GIMP is somehow worse than Photoshop and I have no idea why. Inkscape and paint.net exist. Hell Corel paint shop exists.

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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Why would you recommend GIMP when Krita exists

[–] art@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

GIMP = Image Editing
Krita = Drawing and Painting

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 8 points 10 months ago

+1 for Krita as the paining mvp

This plugin lets you paint with a local stable diffusion . Its better then firefly and free.

https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion

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[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Serif's Affinity suite isn't free, but the UI is much more approachable than GIMP's. The maintainers also aren't being weirdly defensive about a name that's a pun of a slur or sex thing.

[–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Affinity is hella cheap, all things considered. And once you authenticate your installed software, you never have to be online again to use it.

It's so nice, I'm definitely gonna buy it some day, unless GIMP and Scribus somehow manage to impress me until then. Inkscape is already great, but those two...

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I only wish it had a Linux port

[–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

I'd be fine as long as it runs in Wine, honestly

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

As someone with both installed, I disagree. Photoshop is the industry standard for a reason.

I'll use GIMP when I'm doing editing for my job that doesn't pay for an Adobe license, but otherwise I'll use Photoshop every time.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] EndHD@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

damn what kind of fancy school anon go to where they can afford Photoshop for the students? our school could only afford desktops from 2 decades ago

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

a lotta companies provide free licenses for educational purposes to indoctrinate students into using the products after school

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Also because companies that students will apply to work for after graduation look for proficiency in said products because they’re what the vast majority of the industry uses.

If you manage to go through college studying digital media without touching an adobe product you are going to have a hard time finding a job when that’s reflected on your resume.

Adobe doesn’t deserve that exclusivity considering how shit some of their products have gotten and their trash subscription model but that’s the reality.

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[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

or drawing. in which Krita is stellar

[–] jawa21@startrek.website 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How bad is the learning curve? I've been cobbling stuff together with Openshot.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Pretty steep, it's software aimed at professionals, and it shows. There are a few tutorials from Black Magic design where you can download the source media and follow along, which I found very useful.

I found you really need to spend a few evenings learning the software before you actually edit anything.

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[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I use both. You can set up Davinci Resolve so it uses the same key bindings as Premiere Pro

Edit: I was too quick. You didn't mention Premiere Pro at all. Sorry

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Just came here to say fuck Adobe acrobat

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

horrid piece of software

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

Adobe: 🤢

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago

I prefer Sumatra

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

At this point, I'd say it's not just correct but a moral obligation. Adobe has caused incalculable damage to the softwarescape by buying up smaller but popular companies, shoving their products full of AI crap, and putting them behind a subscription.

Allegorithmic used to have Linux releases for several of their Substance products. They no longer exist. Guess what fucking happened.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The <= 2020 versions of Adobe products basically all still work on Linux as well :)

Some of the menus are buggy, but it works for 99/100 of my personal use cases (or I switch to a rinky-dink windows partition or VM)

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[–] bob_lemon@feddit.de 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you see someone pirate proprietary software: No you didn't.

[–] deadbeef@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

First you tell them about the FSF...

I’d like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as Linux is in fact GNU/Linux or as recently i have taken to calling - GNU+Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself but rather another free component of a full functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 10 months ago

Would you say you pirate those products by...

Prince-ple?

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Mom, can we get Prince

We already have Prince at home.

Prince at home ^

[–] SpermGoobler@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is the highest quality version of this meme I've ever seen

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[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Anyone know where I could get a good copy of Lightroom?

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