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[–] Spacebar@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So under his leadership it became more about positive results than it was about accurate results.

That's not science, that's marketing.

[–] DoctorNope@lemmy.one 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Give the guy a break! At least his students aren’t poisoning each other or anything…

[–] hamster@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should feel bad for him. He's lost everything. All he has left is the millions he's made.

[–] Streetdog@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Cry me a million dollars.

[–] Hank@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can't blame him for that one.
Btw I dated a biochemist and they're all insane.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it from all the biochemicals? I think it is from all the biochemicals.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the regular chemicals. Though I'm a bioanalytical chemist, so I likely use more of those than a typical biochemist.

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Studied biochemistry as a major, currently am a microbiology grad student. Biochemistry attracts a certain type of person. Imagine smashing your head against a brick wall. That's how it feels like to do biochemistry.

People who do biochemistry are brilliant but wow, they're intense. At least they're not evolutionary ecologists.

[–] Ducks@ducks.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DoctorNope@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Never have I ever strangled my roommate, poisoned my advisor for suggesting I go into a different branch of physics, and created a weapon that deletes entire metropolitan areas.

Two out of three of those, **at most.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately that's how modern science works. The scientists with the best marketing skills get the grants, get their work mentioned in the media, and hence, get more prestigious work.

He is both a result of a broken system, and then became one of its key perpetuators. I bet he made some sweet bags of cash doing it.

[–] danhasnolife@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Yep. And it worked all the way up to the Stanford presidency. Even now he is "only" a tenured professor.

[–] MisterMoo@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So in his telling he was exonerated of wrongdoing, but he's retracting a bunch of papers and resigning as the president of Stanford. People really can tell themselves anything, can't they?

[–] Overzeetop@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

So in his telling he was exonerated of wrongdoing

"Well that's it, boys. I've been redeemed. The ~~preacher's~~ Board of Trustees done warshed away all my sins and transgressions. It's the straight and narrow from here on out, and ~~heaven everlasting's~~ a well funded retirement is my reward."

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

At some point soon they're going to be turning AIs loose on the collected scientific archives of history, I'm very curious to see how much long-forgotten and undetected fraud is going to be dug up by them. Four retractions per ten thousand articles seems like an implausibly low average given that humans are involved in writing these things.

[–] Sup3rlativ3@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The entire system just seems broken and encourages this type of behaviour. Just look at the Francesca Gino situation. I'm sure as this gets more attention, other discoveries will be made.

https://www.science.org/content/article/harvard-behavioral-scientist-aces-research-fraud-allegations

[–] DulceMaria@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Late stage capitalism strikes again.

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Retracting a paper is a rare act, especially for a scientist of Tessier-Lavigne’s stature. A database of retractions shows that only four in every 10,000 papers are retracted.

If you've ever read published research for a living, this statistic is frighteningly low.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 year ago

Looks like Big Head didn't realize what he was doing.

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