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[–] TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com 188 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Congrats to Firefox, it really has made substantial improvements over the years.

[–] danisth@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago

Firefox a few years ago would kill my Mac battery in a couple hours, now it’s as good as safari for energy management. No reason not to use it as a daily driver now.

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[–] stagen@feddit.dk 89 points 1 year ago (26 children)

I'm sticking with Firefox until some dev decides to use it's engine to make a new better browser. I truly enjoy Arc and Vivaldi, but since they're chromium i don't trust them an inch with my personal data.

[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LibreWolf is an option. It's mainly just a Firefox fork but removes the adware and sponsored garbage as well as had more privacy-focused defaults, though IMO the defaults are too much and need to be toned back. No ads though so it's 100% worth the switch.

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[–] AsRedAsMonkeysAss@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Chrome drools

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Three chrome users said, “nuh uh!”.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (9 children)

If only. Every chrome user said the same thing they’ve said after every other overtake. A poignantly disinterested silence. They just don’t care.

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[–] MarioBarisa@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great job Mozilla. I hope that Firefox will one day be as popular as Chrome or even more! ❤️

[–] ProfezzorDarke@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Oh it was already- Before Chrome became popular. When Chrome came out, only weird people used it. All my friends were FF kids.

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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google is blitzscaled techbro big tech, the honeymoon is over, now it's time for enshittification !

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been using Firefox since Windows XP days and speed has never really been a complaint. Well back in Flash days some sites got janky but that was probably Flash as much as Firefox.

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[–] On@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

anyone care to explain what we're looking at here?

As a Firefox Desktop/Android user this sure sounds awesome.

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[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Great, now do the phone browser

[–] alvanrahimli@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I've been using FF on mobile for couple of weeks now, I dont see any major issues, in fact, no issues at all. Plus, it has extension support.

Why do people hate FF on mobile?

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[–] victron@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Good. Now, stop being forced as a snap, please.

[–] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could always use a distro made by sane people.

[–] victron@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Bro, I've been using Kubuntu for 4 years, it's the most I have spend with a single distro, but I'm this close to jump to Debian 12 (in fact I just tried it with VirtualBox today), I'm just waiting for the weekend because job.

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[–] tram1@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Kind of crazy that Ubuntu has some packages exclusively as snaps...

[–] nan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Crazy is installing a package through apt and having it install the snap.

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[–] biddy@feddit.nl 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It makes sense that they don't want to maintain 2 versions. What doesn't make sense is that when you ask it for an apt, instead of saying "this package isn't avalible as an apt" and maybe "by the way it is available as a snap if you want", it just installs the snap without telling you.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Browsers are cyclical like fashion, I guess.

Remember when chrome launched and they had all those commercials showing how fast it loaded webpages?

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If browsers are like fashion, Firefox is a well-tailored suit. Never out of style.

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[–] deleted@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I use firefox and I like it but they have been dumbfying their UI and nagging users to use pockets.

Why on earth would I need to go to about window to update? Also, I don’t know where to find extensions so I just choose addons then manually go to extensions.

[–] exscape@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hm, where do they nag? I don't know what Pockets is and haven't seen anything about it.
I also never manually update Firefox, I just restart when it tells me it's downloaded an update.

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[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Going to the about window to check for updates is a decades old thing among thousands of different software(it's the same in Edge, Chrome, Opera(old and new), etc)

Clicking on the "Add-ons and Themes" literally takes you straight to the extension tab(extensions are add-ons).

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[–] s0phia@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never complained about its performance but that's awesome!

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[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm still using Chrome, but it keeps getting shittier. At some point they'll push me over to Firefox. Hope Firefox can avoid getting shitty.

[–] crunchpaste@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

While Mozilla is far from perfect, I think they've managed to avoid getting shitty for almost 20 years.

[–] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because the Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit. They don't need to maximize value for their shareholders™.

Thank you Netscape for setting Navigator free!

The Enshitification cycle is a feature of for profit corporations, Google was always going to turn evil at some point.

[–] nan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

The Mozilla Corporation is for profit, but they reinvest all of their profits. They are also wholly owned by the Foundation. You can't donate to Firefox.

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[–] Haarukkateroitin@sopuli.xyz 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How about today? I believe in you. You can do it! Break the cycle. Ditch the Chrome.

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[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been avoiding Chrome as devil avoids holy water for years. So I'm glad FF does well.

[–] matt@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's been a few comments on here talking about Firefox on Android being laggy compared to Chrome on Android.

Nobody seems to have mentioned this, but the main reason this is and/or appears to be the case is because Firefox is capped at 60Hz, whereas Chrome will display at 90Hz, making it feel much smoother.

No, I have no idea why.

Edit: The above is misinformation after I did some research - it appears that resisting fingerprinting causes the browser to set itself to 60Hz, but this can be disabled to get your screen's refresh rate, but of course this means throwing away a privacy protection...

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[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What is exactly being measured here? Someone care to elaborate what kind of things they kept into account?

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[–] capyking@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

i had left firefox for a while due to the google ecosystem but i’m happy i came back to it.

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