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Main points: He plans to make moderators popularly elected to more easily vote them out.

Hopes the next frontier will be subreddits as businesses.

He does not want Reddit employees to take on the work. Moderator hours were valued at 3.2 million last year, 3% of reddit’s revenue.

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[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

come work for free

No thanks

builds an entire self-hosted instance of an open source, federated social media network...

[–] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

popular elections in an ecosystem 1/4 bots, in which the admins hold ultimate unilateral authority.

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Spez is such a nice guy, protecting the innocent users from the greedy elites who control the site. /s

1/4 bots, 1/4 advertising, 1/4 Onlyfans "entrepreneurs" and 1/4 users. What could possibly go wrong?

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

1/4 bots, 1/4 paid advertising, 1/4 Onlyfans "entrepreneurs" and 1/4 users. What could go wrong?

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol this is gonna be awful

[–] Kurumatron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doesn't matter what changes he makes I'm never going back to that site that it's filled with karma farmers, bots and onlyfans spamers

[–] crilen@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yea I'm actually glad there's an exodus of people who care. The ones who don't, I don't care about them either.

[–] Cap@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When the subreddits went private I visited reddit three times, then a couple of times the next day, then once the following day. I haven't visited today and honestly I'm not missing it too much. If I get the urge to visit I just come here and it acts as my reddit nicotine patch.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Removing relay from my home screen has helped a lot. I've accidentally gone to old reddit a couple times and didn't click on any links but most times I catch myself and come here instead.

[–] crilen@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yea I had to swap my icons... Easy way to break the habit.

[–] charles15@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just wish it wasn't always the first few results when you look up information on certain topics. Especially for really niche issues since it's often the only place with answers right now. That's basically that only time I visit reddit at this point.

[–] crilen@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can avoid giving them hits by pasting the url into archive.org sometimes

[–] HappyHarryHadron@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I've been the same, and when I've browsed the comments there is so much aggro. Makes me wonder if it's always been like that and I was just blind to it.

Overall, the experience here is 1000 times better than Reddit

[–] ForbiddenRoot@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He plans to make moderators popularly elected to more easily vote them out.

I totally second this idea. The last time we tried to get the internet to seriously decide on something we got Boaty McBoatface.

Hopes the next frontier will be subreddits as businesses.

Even better. All posts in these subs can be advertisements, perfect.

He does not want Reddit employees to take on the work. Moderator hours were valued at 3.2 million last year, 3% of reddit’s revenue.

Yeah, don't even spend 3% of revenues as a cost of doing business. The soon-to-be-community-elected mods will do it for free. Super.

[–] Loccy@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

The last time we tried to get the internet to seriously decide on something we got Boaty McBoatface.

And lo, the Internet looked down upon it's handiwork, and verily, t'was awesome.

All posts in these (business) subs can be advertisements, perfect.

And nobody will ever go there. And, two years down the track, u/spaz will hoik up the pricing or cut them off entirely because they're making money off of a non-profitable Reddit. "We want to work with the business subs but they're not interested in talking to us and have all thrown their toys out of the pram and shut down".

[–] Richie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The bigger, sadder problem is that it would actually work. There's never been a more divided time in the world than now. You'd think everyone would see how disgraceful Reddit's actions have been and want nothing to do with the platform anymore, but realistically not everyone cares. It's already happening where you can simply tell mods that they aren't being paid for their time and instead of them thinking logically, they go ahead and ban you to silence you.

It’s not like they don’t know it’s not paid, if it’s a fun hobby people choose to support the communities they love they’d spend the time anyway. But with every move to make Reddit more corporate it makes the sites reliance on volunteers more exploitative.

[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah mods are already universally hated enough that they make a great scapegoat. That seems to be the direction we're headed.

[–] Philip@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Is the CEO going to be popularly elected too?

[–] supernovae@readit.buzz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you do all that work for nothing just to be able to be voted out? 😂

[–] crwcomposer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, way fewer people will be willing to put in the effort modding if they can just be voted out. And subreddits that are supposed to represent minority opinions will just get voted out by the opposition.

[–] HocEnimVeni@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So everyone who left wouldn't vote and everyone who stayed can end the blackout

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They're just looking for admin-friendly volunteers to cross the picket line and kick out protesting mods. It's unsurprising that it's come to this, and has already started in various reddit's (such as /r/AdviceAnimals, which still exists, apparently).

[–] giddy@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

tone deaf much?

[–] ogg42@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The correct response is scorched earth, time to delete the protesting subreddits. the CEO has zero respect for those folks who built those community’s, might as well help remove the actual value of reddit.

[–] Awhiskeydrunker@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Deleting the subreddits would be an easily reversible action for admins. Users will need to edit over comments to actually make a change that wouldn’t easily be reverted. Idk, maybe it could be. It would have to be a lot more users too.

[–] crilen@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm positive they made a backup before announcing the change. We would have to edit the comments to something not easily detected like random words.

[–] nightofgrim@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ll go back to reddit for a day to vote him off of r/programming

[–] tinwhiskers@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's also the long game of voting in the most appalling mods you can find.

[–] Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Hey. I volunteer to change my reddit profile pic to a picture of me- with my pasty white legs- wearing socks with sandals.

[–] Nachoman_Randy_Sandwich@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After debating for a few days and watching u/spez spiral even further out of reality. I nuked my account. All comments and posts edited to gibberish and then deleted followed by my account.

[–] TimberHearth@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there an available script somewhere? Would love to do the same.

I downloaded and used redact on the app store. Really easy right from my phone

[–] Tashlan@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly like, if he makes it so mods can be popularly elected/unelected, well, he's gonna end up with the other sort of Reddit protestor -- the feral shitposters -- tearing down every mod on the whole page. I assume he would have to reverse that policy at exactly the moment he gets rid of his ... enemies, I guess? -- or else ViolentAcrezMAGAEdition is gonna be running r/worldnews with Roger Stone.

[–] Flaky_Fish69@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It's the bots that'll rule.

There's a shit load of botting services out there you can pay to upvote your agenda. And those services have the revenue generation to pay for the exorbitant API access.

Unless a sub is private... anyone can vote in polls, even if it's restricted. Reddit may even have it's own bots jumping in at that point.
I wonder which is a less fair, russian annexation referendums or reddit mod votes.

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