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[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago

GnG was seen as bullshit-hard even when it came out.

[–] punkcoder@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I honestly think that gng is one of the most punishing games ever created. The fact that you complete it (took me till adulthood with cheats) that it turns around and tell you to do it again to actually win, is one of the most evil things that the game could have done.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It took an emulator and 10.000 quicksaves for me to do it twice. Fuck that game, and fuck battletoads too.

[–] stanka@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like let's play material. At least i know now not to attempt it.

[–] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

It's a rewarding achievement honestly.

Finishing Ghost and goblins (along with ghouls and ghosts) without cheats/saves is bragging rights

My ultimate gaming achievement was beating Pulstar on one quarter in the arcade (although it wasn't really fair, I had a neogeo cabinet at home with Pulstar and I played it for hours everyday for weeks). Still, this is an accomplishment that no one I know has matched

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Otherwise_Direction7@monyet.cc 10 points 11 months ago

That would be too much for her little self to handle

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Play Minetest instead. Open Source Minecraft.

[–] Otherwise_Direction7@monyet.cc 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Does it run on smartphone tho?

[–] Tau@sopuli.xyz 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

F-DROID MENTIONED, I REPEAT, F-DROID MENTIONED

F-Droid is a fantastic app store. You'll find a lot of really cool software there, most of which can't be found on the regular Play Store, such as NewPipe (which allows you to do all the things a YouTube Premium subscription does for free), AuroraStore (an alternative client for the Play Store that doesn't require a Google account) and AAAAXY (a rather intriguing non-euclidean puzzle platformer). Best part is, every app on F-Droid is free and open source and none contain ads. Side note, consider supporting developers.

[–] kattenluik@feddit.nl 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can't imagine playing a first person 3d voxel game on a tiny screen, that sounds like torture.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Lol sometimes I use a mouse and keyboard to play on my phone and am reminded that my phone is the most powerful computer I own 😹

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Get a phone that's 6in+. Works pretty well. Then again, most phones are big these days...

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Minetest rocks, but don't compare Minecraft with it until you run mineclone2 (a Minecraft clone built on minetest)

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 18 points 11 months ago

I need to be thankful that those bar games were hard from the beginning and had me killed within seconds whenever I tried them, so I never got addicted to them. If those games had used modern user-retention tactics back then I would've spent a ton of coins in my life.

[–] Otherwise_Direction7@monyet.cc 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Totally not me who just started NES The Legend of Zelda recently, haha, haha…

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[–] Tetristan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 11 months ago

If you want to have a great time completing the first Zelda, try playing it with Hand Drawn Gameguides.

It's written like a kind of journal with a lot of artwork and hints that don't immediately spoil the experience but give you enough guiding to find the rest yourself.

[–] Toes@ani.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Ah yes the original dark souls. ~~That game requires the manual as a way to prevent piracy so read up.~~

[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can't think of a part of Zelda that required the manual. Are you thinking of StarTropics, perhaps?

[–] Toes@ani.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, it's been a long time. I thought the walls that can be bombed were in the manual?

[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's been a looooong time, but I remember the manual saying that they were a thing that exists, but not telling you where they are.

EDIT: Found the manual online. Turns out it doesn't even tell you that much. It does tell you how to find the first two dungeons, but you can figure that out yourself without the manual. Also, I forgot one of the dungeons was shaped like a swastika, which, I know that has different connotations in Eastern cultures and Nintendo wasn't really entirely conversant with Western cultures at this point, but hoo boy.

[–] Toes@ani.social 3 points 11 months ago

Oh that's really cool

[–] MrGerrit@feddit.nl 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait till you play legend of Zelda II on nes. By many claimed to be the hardest LoZ game to this day.

I played it so much that I did a playthrough all on one save. I had to leave the NES plugged in overnight, which is some sort of miracle that the dog didn't yank out the cord.

I'm not typically good at games, so I will still be babbling about this accomplishment on the day I succumb to advanced dementia.

[–] LesDeuxBonsYeux@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I fucking LOVE this game (arcade version) and it's two sequels. It's stupidly hard but the gameplay is gold

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What game is it/where can I play it?

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

It is Ghosts 'n Goblins and it and it's sequels (Ghouls 'n Ghosts, Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts) can be played on the nintendo switch's various old-school emulators or on various sites like RetroGames

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ghouls n' Ghosts on the sega genesis was my favorite game as a kid

[–] Otherwise_Direction7@monyet.cc 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Do you also like Dark Souls games too?

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Oh big time, I was playing DSR last night

[–] StraySojourner@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I love the various GnG games as well! But, Dark Souls is extremely frustrating to me.

[–] Toes@ani.social 11 points 11 months ago

In fairness that game is designed to hate you

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dude, ghosts and goblins and super ghosts and ghouls are just torture devices

[–] Otherwise_Direction7@monyet.cc 4 points 11 months ago

Her boss surely is a wicked guy isn’t it

First it was bungee jumping incident, now she were forced to play this video game embodiment of hell for the company marketing purposes

Poor girl just wants to get through her day and make some pocket money in the process…

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the greediest ones would've been the same as the current gen if done now. Times has changed and so would they:

  • Traditional revenue from restarts VS revenue from keeping the session going indefinetely (and expose to mtx). The latter is more akin to a casino, and it's not exactly the same.

  • Arcades market in public spaces VS home consoles market and a sofa. Gonna keep the tempo of rotation like in fast food joints, you won't sit there for an hour. Also, the invention of a score chart making it a sequential public competition.

  • They were sold to businesses, business owners are rare to be gamers (for they are too busy), and arcade games were built around returning investments as they buy an expensive game cabinet as a point-of-interest. Like a karaoke in a bar, it drags people into the mall or other place and exposes them to other services while not wanting them to just game.

  • Also, yes, they were too fucking expensive in a hardware and a furniture alone. Cooperative games' cabinets didn't care much, because they have a stable audience and a need of people to move around freely in agitation, 'blockbuster' releases of racing sims for example had driving chairs, even an emulation of a cabin sometimes, all specififcally designed and produced for it. To sell one, you R&D new controllers, new designs, new hardware. As the game's quality itself was irrelevant up until it caught your eye, and you really sell a whole PC for a game, it could've been less of a priority than it's now. Look at Sega: most you know now they are a software company first, and buying their games from Gabe is like ordering a pizza, there's literally no hardships of physical marketing they had before, it all became digital.

I may be wrong in some points (like I did ignore panchiko for I haven't played them), but it's the specifics of an arcade market what made them like that, and a growing market of home PCs did so too.

P.S. Also kinda fun to find some old cabinets with unique cabinet versions of known games. Like Need for Speed for example. Can't recall what part it was, but it had it's UI and gameplay loop completely rearranged specifically to pursue these ideas. I feel like they are lost to history now for no one cared having a better version on another platform.

[–] Otherwise_Direction7@monyet.cc 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

P.S. Also kinda fun to find some old cabinets with unique cabinet versions of known games. Like Need for Speed for example.

Interesting that you mention because a couple of months ago I do once see a arcade cabinet that run Need for Speed: The Run on it

Now I’m not sure if that thing is official or not (high chance it is fake considering there is little to nonexistent information about it’s official existence online) but it’s is coin operated and complete with the NFS: The Run branding all over it

I wish I had a picture of the machine to describe the machine better to you but sadly the dumb side of me is letting go the opportunity to take it while I was there…

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

I guess my find was older than Carbon, and The Run was when, in early 2010s? I'm surprised it happened, that they still did these things. Your little memory makes me wonder for how long they actually did them.

And, for just a little, a dream to get one of those to emulate racing games with such a style. Probs it means a full hardware change, but sitting there and playing Burnout, Underground could've become a life goal. One another tick in the list for my never-retirement (: