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Title. I'm not the best with privacy... But wanted to upload a picture of my pupper. Thanks!

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[–] ted@sh.itjust.works 83 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Exif data is stripped when uploading to Lemmy.

[–] jayknight@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But you never know (unless you run your own instance) if your instance has been modified to record it somewhere before it is removed.

[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

But it is an open source project and the developers views are strongly in favor of privacy, so yeah you can self host it or check the source code. But I think it's safe to assume they didn't program it like that.

Note that people who host an instance can theoretically change it, but still I wouldn't worry it'll actually happen.

[–] SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Instance admins are pulling the code down and implementing it in their server. They could easily slip in some malicious backend code and there would be no way to verify it.

[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Of course, I said that too. And unless you self host yourself you have to trust the instance you're using. But the question itself was more about lemmy in general, and most people just deploy the docker image or something.

Also, I don't believe that, assuming an average person host an instance, the host will want some random people metadata from photos. It's not big corps that process every bit of data they get.

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[–] Anders429@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rule #1 in internet privacy: don't assume best intentions of anyone. Just because it is open source does not mean whoever hosts the instance didn't modify the source.

[–] frankivo@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then what is the first rule?

[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Pascal indexes are the best

[–] Butter_My_Buttcheeks@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good point. I'm just now getting to this thread to see all the replies, so I bet I'll find some answers on how to do it via my android

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[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it is an open source project and the developers views are strongly in favor of privacy, so yeah you can self host it or check the source code. But I think it's safe to assume they didn't program it like that.

Note that people who host an instance theoretically change it, but still I wouldn't worry it'll actually happen.

[–] reclipse@lemdro.id 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends on how much you trust your instance admins.

[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't this comment deleted for you too? (I replied twice by mistake)

Anyway, yeah I completely agree. But as I replayed to a user at my other reply:

I don’t believe that, assuming an average person host an instance, the host will want some random people metadata from photos. It’s not big corps that process every bit of data they get.

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's not deleted for me. I had the same problem as you. I replied twice, immediately deleted one, then had people responding to both and telling me that I replied twice.

It's really scary that deleting comments doesn't work 100% of the time. And it's ironic, given the topic of this discussion is privacy. Not being able to guarantee that your comments can be deleted 100% is a huge privacy concern. It might even be illegal in Europe, but idk.

[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The deleted comments don't get deleted too tho. The last edit is saved on the server anyways, so if you really want to delete something, edit it first and then delete it.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ted@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, big platforms have stripped this for years. It is in their best interest to do so.

Well... Ever since I left reddit I'm not just lurking around. I feel compelled to participate as a fuck you to reddit. Didn't know they did that

Apologies on the delay!!! Work happens. Good to know that is covered.

[–] resurrexia@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] ted@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Just guessing based on this open issue, kbin has not done this yet.

[–] neal@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at who you responded to. It's one of the usernames you pinged. Just saying πŸ™‚

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think that's a kbin thing, where any time you reply to a comment, your comment includes an @ to that comment's author. I think the only one they intended to "ping" was butterface

[–] keegomatic@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not a kbin thing… might be an extension though. I’m on kbin and no automatic mention was added to the top of this comment when I replied to you.

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's a setting (default off) called Add mention tags in entries under the "Writing" subsection.

[–] resurrexia@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird, I didn’t change that setting but I’m pinging everyone. I thought it was a kbin default.

[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The option below the one I listed is for when you comment on "microblog" stuff. That one is default on.

[–] resurrexia@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I went to settings and turned it all off. Didn't see that there the last time I tweaked settings. Must be new! Kudos to ernest.

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I looked at kbin before going with lemmy... So not sure what kbin can do

[–] Wolf@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Great question, but also better to remove it yourself just for the peace of mind.

[–] vita_man@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do I remove Metadata from my pictures?

[–] Yendor@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On windows, if you check the properties of the file, there’s a button to remove metadata.

On iPhone, if you go into your photos and drag a photo up, you can click β€œadjust” and remove or edit the location and time/date (it will still have camera data).

[–] vita_man@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks. How would I do it on an Android phone?

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[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Yep, safest route is to be cautious and do it yourself if it is enough of a concern.

[–] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is an absolutely amazing question that I'd also like the answer to.

I did a test upload of an image I knew had location data and it appeared to be stripped when I viewed the post. That being said I'd like a definitive answer and I do agree with everyone saying, the only way to know for sure is to do it yourself.

[–] M_Reimer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Just to be sure you should always remove information, you don't want on the internet, by yourself.

I always have most metadata storage disabled on my smartphone. Good way to prevent leaking of a location stored in images.

[–] A_S_B@lemmy.eco.br 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Follow-up question: how one removes the metadata from a picture or archive ?

Using tools like meta data cleaner from flathub and other tools have the feature built in. Also like with main social media it does it when uploaded

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Take on step further and also disable capturing location from the camera app. But also additionally remove metadata before uploading.

BTW we are waiting for your pupper's picture OP.

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[–] lasagna@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would suggest getting to the root of the issue and disable it on your camera app.

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[–] Doe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If sharing from iOS, you can chose to strip the information when sharing.

The language on the toggle however suggests the metadata is only shared when using AirDrop.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On Android, you can use Scrambled EXIF or Image Pipe through the share menu, or through file selection.

[–] original_reader@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] effingjoe@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

That's sweet; now I just need to remember to use it.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd disable attaching metadata to pictures in your phone setting in the first place, especially location.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not sure anyone would want to steal your butter.

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