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Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive (signal.org)

submitted 1 year ago by u_tamtam@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Tekchip@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Use Session instead. Open source, E2E encrypted, onion routed, no phone numbers. https://getsession.org/

Audited too. https://blog.quarkslab.com/resources/2021-05-04_audit-of-session-secure-messaging-application/20-08-Oxen-REP-v1.4.pdf

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, what would be the appeal compared to XMPP?

[–] Tekchip@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I will preface this with, I may be wrong, but as I understand it xmpp is just a protocol. One that, unless it's been revised, imparts no encryption at all. Signal, and Session, are full architectures that enable all of the afrementioned features from my initial post including server and client.

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

20M USD for 50 employees? ~400+k per employee is nuts!

There are European engineers working at private companies for less 20% (1/5th) of that - if even that! They aren't worse than their American counterparts. Signal could increase their team sizes by at least 30%, maybe even 50% if they hired engineers and other employees from Europe.

If signal paid 100k for European engineers to work on opensource software, mate, they'd have absolute no problems retaining them. I personally don't know a single engineer earning 100k on the European mainland. Not one.

Edit: seriously, wtf. I'm all for paying employees well and it's great that Signal has a dedicated workforce, but 400k? I'm fine canceling my donation. My jaw is still on the floor.

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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

waaahh centralizing millions of slightly-privacy-aware people's metadata on Amazon's servers costs a lot of money, waaah

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