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Every time I see a picture of him I think it has to be edited or something. He’s like a walking Snapchat filter.
"Hello, fellow humans!"
Does any other human out there love smoked meats ?
The best part about the full smoked meats vid is when his "friends" (i.e. employees) come over. What really gets me is that the friends NEVER speak unless spoken to, because it's just a really awkward work event where Zuck has to pretend he has friends.
That one definitely is edited lol. Reminds me of the android from that Queen album cover
I would like to also add this argument into the discussion, since I've seen a lot of people who are voting for federating with meta, with the argument that defederating just because we don't like someone goes against the idea of Fediverse, and interconnected network of diverse servers that is should inclusive and allows people to connect.
It's quite the contrary - allowing Meta in goes directly against the idea of Fediverse, and we should fight it as much as possible.
This is a literal quote from the main header on https://www.fediverse.to/
The fediverse is a collection of community-owned, ad-free, decentralised, and privacy-centric social networks.
Each fediverse instance is managed by a human admin. You can find fediverse instances dedicated to art, music, technology, culture, or politics.
Join the growing community and experience the web as it was meant to be.
Judging by this main selling point of the Fediverse, it sounds to me like Meta shouldn't be in the Fediverse do begin with, and every instance should defederate from them by default.
Thanks for saving us lemmy.ml Admins.
o7. We're out here for yall, and we're gonna make sure the fediverse stays inoculated from threats.
I would say we need a vote if lemmy.world should do the same. I would be for blocking meta.
People left reddit because of corporate f*ckery, and some of them are now making excuses for meta?? What kind of mental gymnastics is this?
the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to preemptively block threats / Meta
The only sane approach to this "dilemma". Thank you for keeping the instance free of "threats" (I see what you did there)
It's quite the dilemmy
Excellent. Big corporations go against the very idea of the fediverse.
...the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta.
When the typo is more accurate than what was intended to be written.
Good riddance
Amen! I made a longer post explaining my reasoning for blocking Threads and the decision took only 15 minutes.
Thank you so much! Let's make sure the XMPP situation never repeats ever again.
Prophylactic intervention is the best defense against Metastasis.
Well done Lemmy.ml - hopefully the rest of the fediverse follows your example. This is, no exaggeration, an existential threat to the fed.
Good riddance to Meta's bullshit. Stop them before they get to the first E in EEE.
Here's a sign to put up at the border between Lemmy.ml and Threads, which will surely have a 100-meter wall built on it with 50 kV electric fences, barbed wire, watchtowers, snipers, and whatever to keep those Meta corporate fuckers out.
Threads Quarantine Zone sign
Thank you for your integrity and ethics. This action sends a strong message to the capitalist leeches where we stand.
Hi guys, I'm new here from Reddit and I'm still learning about Lemmy and the Fediverse. Can someone ELI5 how not blocking Threads can negatively affect this community? Thanks.
This is the gist: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
Basically, big companies can destroy decentralised network from within once big enough people adopt it.
What they do is
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Embrace - adopt the network with their own proprietary system, like Threads for example, as opposed to other system in the fediverse right now that are open source.
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Extend - spend resources like money, manpower, and even extensive knowledge on how to expand and make the network a better place with a lot more features while simultaneously promoting and making so that only their proprietary app can access it in the best way.
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Exterminate / Extinguish - once they have good amount of users, they can start crippling the other side, like maybe Threads can see posts from Lemmy and Mastodon but not the other way around, people are gonna think that Threads is superior and leaving the original instances. They can also pull back resources like even the people who used to work on developing the network that they used to give so generously before, and such the maintainer now has no way to keep up in developing the network.
Also known as the EEE tactic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
Gonna go against the grain here a little bit, but why? If they are federated, it will mean that you can move off of threads more easily to other servers and not get locked into a walled garden. Encouraging companies to embrace federation will avoid the shit shows like we've seen at twitter and reddit, since users will be easily able to jump ship without much loss. Additionally, apps like threads make federated platforms much more approachable to newcomers and those who do not even know what the fediverse is.
I'd love someone to explain it to me, but this feels like a massive footgun.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
Embrace: they embrace the fediverse, bring millions of new users to it and everyone is happy. The fediverse grows and the new meta instance gets a ton of content. Everyone is happy
Extend: meta begins to add features to their instance which clashes with or is unusable with other instances. These begin to pile up and issues develop.
Extinguish: meta unfederates from other instances. People are now forced to stay where they were and lose a majority of their friends and content from metas instance. Or switch over. Mass migration away from original instances. These instances die
I mean, lemmy.ml explicitly describes itself as a community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts (and I'm reasonably certain it's run by actual communists) so I'd have been quite surprised if they'd embraced Meta tbh.
The great part of federation is that users who want to use Threads still can, and instances who don't want to federate with Meta don't have to. People who want to double-dip can sign up for their favorite instance(s) of choice, as well as with Threads. Neither one has to have any app shut down and everyone still gets to make a choice as an end-user rather than be decided upon by an unmovable authority. Win win!
Great news, now let's hope every instance follows.
Joined a few Lemmy instances, but the admin team taking actions like these might make lemmy.ml my main place to go. Anything corporate is irredeemable.
Kudos...... It's very much appreciated and a refreshing change to not be let down by something you enjoy online.
I think a preemptive block on threads and meta is a wise move! I did it for both my Mastodon and Lemmy instances.
Thank you!
Meta will only go full on E/E/E on the fediverse, even by "accident" (like adding new features and breaking the standard). Better choke them off right from the start and build small organic communities instead.
Excellent news. I would have moved to another instance that did block if .ml didn't block them. Thank you for this lemmy.ml