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I'm in the market for a Linux friendly ultralight laptop to check web apps and run terminal, nothing fancier then that. Do any cheap systems exits these days? I was looking at a chrome book but apparently the mediatek chip doesn't play nicely with FOSS.

Any thoughts?

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[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ex-corporate refurbished laptop from the last 3 or 4 years for about $300 tops is perfect for this.

[–] shortly2139@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can confirm, I use an old HP elitebook from work. Battery life is great, beats my wives new lenovo. More than powerful enough to browse the web and play in the terminal. Also only gets hot if I run a game on it; I wouldnt advise that though.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why would you buy a laptop that beats your wife's laptop? That seems abusive.

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

But honey, I can change (the OS)

[–] spader312@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Can confirm, bought a Dell latitude 4790 which is a corporate machine refurbished for $270. It's super powerful for the price, runs Fedora perfectly.

[–] alonely0@programming.dev 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have a second-hand Thinkpad T480s that I love, I bought it for 250$ on ebay and replaced its battery because it was fried (+40$). I use it for school and it works flawlessly, around 8h of battery life in a well-configured OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. According to the specs sheet it shouldn't be, but for some reason it is noticeably lighter than a friend of mine's MacBook Air 2021.

What I really love about it is the ThinkDock Ultra (iirc 30$ on ebay), which lets me place the laptop on my table, and by just sliding a piece of plastic, it connects all of my peripherals in a second. I love this laptop so much that I'll use it until it dies so hard that it can't be fixed at all.

laptop, cover laptop, open dock, no laptop dock, I/O laptop + dock

[–] WhyAUsername_1@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing the pictures! Loved it!

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[–] LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not the thinnest thing ever, but I find my old ThinkPad X230 very light and easy to use for extended periods on my lap

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[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you say "couch" my first thought is a recent-ish Celeron or Pentium Silver fanless laptop. Performance akin to a Core 2 Duo but no fan to get blocked sitting on the couch. Like the Latitude 3210(?)

Laptops that appeal to me are often bottom breathers so it's one thing I miss from my old MB Air.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

My couch laptop is an i5-5200u and it does great until you get more than 2 heavy browser tabs open.

[–] Spyder@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I bought a used Lenovo ThinkPad X240 Laptop i5 | 8GB RAM | 500GB HDD | for 50$ as a couch laptop to run Linux / Python code. I can browse the internet and it’s light.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any chromebook that supports Coreboot. Absolutely unrepairable and very low storage, but good Linux support and coreboot!

mrchromebox.tech/devices

[–] 13617@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But be aware a ton of features that would work on ChromeOS don't work, I've done this to 4 and all have separate problems

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The pinebooks are pretty inexpensive. I can't speak to quality or usability though

[–] stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What price bracket are you looking at? The two laptops that I normally use in that situation is a used Thinkpad X1 Carbon I got on eBay, and a HP Dev One that works pretty well for that.

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[–] macattack@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

There are plenty of Chromebooks that can wiped & replaced w/ Linux. I run Debian 12 on my HP x360. Check this list: https://chrultrabook.github.io/docs/docs/supported-devices.html

[–] mfat@lemdro.id 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] parallax@local106.com 7 points 1 year ago

Ooo I think this may be the winner!

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

mine is an asus e210ma with a samsung nvme added, it's great

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)
[–] alonely0@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I prefer the T480 series (imo Thinkpad went downhill from there onwards). The non-s is a great off-road laptop, but for what OP is asking, the T480s seems like a more sensible choice.

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[–] spader312@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I bought a refurbished dall latitude 7490 for like 270$. For the price it's a powerful machine, 16gb ram and i7 processor. Installed fedora on it and I'm in love with it. For the price it puts out the power I need for software development.

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just buy a tablet at that point.

[–] jcarax@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With a terminal being a core use for the machine?

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I use a 2013 macbook air for almost this exact use case. Ask friends and family if they have any old laptops lying around.

[–] Veraxis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

As others have mentioned, secondhand laptops and surplus business laptops are very affordable and probably better value for the money than a chromebook. My understanding is that drivers for things like fingerprint sensors, SD card readers, or oddball Wi-Fi chipsets can be issues to watch out for. But personally I don't care about the fingerprint sensor and only the Wi-Fi would be a major issue to me.

A couple years ago now I picked up a used Acer Swift with 8th gen intel and a dent in the back lid for something like $200 to use as my "throw in a backpack for travel" laptop, and it has been working great. In retrospect, I would have looked for something with 16GB of RAM or upgradeable RAM (8GB soldered to the motherboard, ugh), but aside from that minor gripe it has been a good experience.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Pi-top or similar?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I used a Pinebook for that

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you say webapps, may I ask what method you prefer for using PWAs on Linux? Do you install them as apps? If so, how?

[–] parallax@local106.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean in firefox, not trying to get fancy.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I use Brave pretty much just for that purpose, while I use Firefox to browse everything else.
There is Firefox PWA, but it feels like such a shitty hack (don't get me wrong, it's not badly made, but they're forced by the circumstances to make a setup process that is one big headache) that I'd rather have a browser that has official and solid support and it also doubles as my browser to test web content on Blink, so it's a win-win for me

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[–] vanderbilt@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I picked up a Black Friday Lenovo ChromeBook (Flex 3) for US $160 and use it essentially the same way you describe. You can load up a Debian-based Linux environment within ChromeOS. It's basically my web-capable thin client.

[–] GameWarrior@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Would a Framework laptop work?

[–] parallax@local106.com 12 points 1 year ago

If it was going to be my daily drive. They are just too expensive to have as a system I can use while sitting with the family.

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[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The ultimate couch laptop will be an M1 MacBook Air as it has no fans and a suped up phone chip so it doesn't heat. It also has amazing battery life... But it's still pretty expensive and it cannot be repaired. Otherwise old MacBooks should be pretty good because most of the Intel models used relatively low end chips because their thermal design was so limited

[–] MadBigote@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He also said Linux-friendly, lol.

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[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Something with a spacious keyboard would be great.

[–] gyrfalcon@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I bought a used HP Elitebook on eBay for a similar purpose. I can browse and do video calls on a bigger screen when the fancy strikes. Pretty much any used business laptop should work. I think I paid about $300 for mine and I paid extra for particular hardware I thought was neat but you don't have to. Only thing to keep in mind is the battery will likely be pretty worn.

[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For the usecase you describe, I'd go with a Chromebook, and build ChromeOS from source myself if that aspect felt important.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

ChromiumOS would be better. But you can flash coreboot on lots of Chromebooks and run real Linux on them

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