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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by glowie@infosec.pub to c/memes@lemmy.ml
 
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[–] Thormjolnir@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there a actual VPN that says it's there?

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Undoubtedly, but it won't be public.

[–] Tehgingey@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's so key, of course that island has it, but it's never going to be something we could emulate or acces. Too level encryption to protect the interests of the rich

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It’s more likely all the traffic from the island is routed out to many multi end nods across the globe, the FBI would be very keen to monitor traffic coming out of the island now, so they would need to have a network of global VPNs splitting the traffic that is highly encrypted so it’s difficult to monitor the actual traffic coming out of the island once it is mixed with the heavy amount of other public traffic coming out of big datacenters in countries that aren’t directly controlled by the Five Eyes

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

too complicated. it's much easier to just not investigate your own.

[–] michael@lemmy.perthchat.org 1 points 1 year ago

this is sarcasm right?

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Depends on how you define VPN.

First, lets assume they have internet there. Not satellite internet. Literally connected permanent internet connection. I don't think this is a safe assumption because it's a literal island. Second assumption, we're talking about IP geolocation and only that. Not other methods of geolocation because then VPN is irrelevant.

Can you setup a VPN on Little Saint James island, connect to it, and use it? Yes.

Can you get an IP that when you geolocate, it will say: Little Saint James island? Extremely unlikely. So much so that I would say no.

Would an ISP actually assign a block and geolocate that to that specific island and nothing else? Probably not. What does that mean? It means the IP address that gets assigned to a more general purpose "Virgin Islands" kind of geolocation rather than a specific place.

Take this example. Houses with street number 1 to 100 is in queens. And 101 to 200 is in Brooklyn. And ISP decides, we have blocks of 64 IP assignments. So it gives houses 1-64 a Queens geolocated IP. Then houses 65-128 also Queens geolocated IP. And the rest is geolocated to Brooklyn. Then if you lived in #120, your IP will say Queens even though you live in Brooklyn.

That island is TINY. And it's likely a single subscriber of internet. It's a single owner and might get a single IP address, why would you even assign multiple? There's no need. And there's virtually no chance any ISP is gonna bother to geolocate a single IP. Ain't nobody got time for that. Even my example of 64 is just an example and is incredibly high fidelity that's rarely done.

IP geolocations could even be entirely wrong and say it's Chicago when it's Queens. This kind of stuff happens all the time for various reasons.

IP geolocation is not an accurate thing to begin with. ISPs will assign large blocks of IP to a specific geolocation. It will be shared and it doesn't even technically have to do with physically same region. It doesn't have to be correct. They just want it somewhat accurate.

Can you ask the ISP to give you a larger block of IP and have it geolocated specifically to that island and do everything OP is implying? Yes. That's exactly what businesses like data centers do. But this is just an island. There's really not much reason to do this.

So to answer the question more simply. Even if you set up a VPN there, it won't say it's there.