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[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 68 points 4 days ago (23 children)

Except for that one transphobic episode that Graham Linehan has ruined his whole life over instead of going "Yeah, I'm sorry, that was a bit insensitive."

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 127 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

EDIT: since I don't want the top reply not to mention this, fuck IT Crowd creator Graham Linehan for the incalculable damage he's done to innocent trans people. He's a worthless, disgusting bigot.


Honestly, I always found that episode... Weirdly progressive? Even maybe by accident? Consider the following:

  • The trans woman April is legitimately physically attractive and with a distinctly feminine voice to match.
  • She's a legitimately very sweet, intelligent, and earnest person.
  • She tells Douglas upfront in no uncertain terms that she's trans (she phrases this as "I used to be a man", but honestly, considering both 2008 and the fact it was used to setup a joke, I think this isn't too transphobic? A trans person in 2008 might've even said this because there was less of a support network to understand that you always were a woman.)
  • Douglas gets upset because he thinks he's been tricked, but 1) he absolutely was not, and the episode makes this crystal clear that it's because April made every effort and he's just an absolute dumbass, and 2) Douglas has been portrayed in the show to this point as nothing but a juvenile, overdramatic, chauvanistic sack of shit, and we're clearly not supposed to be rooting for him.
  • She's a fantastic girlfriend and becomes the love of his life. A big part of this is because she has a duality between traditional femininity and an interest in traditionally masculine activities, but I also don't think this is terrible representation? I have a trans woman friend who carries herself in a traditionally feminine way but hasn't dropped more traditionally masculine activities that she grew up enjoying.
  • She throws the first hit at the end, but this is after Douglas dumps her on the spot after they've hit it off, had sex, and confessed their love for each other because he was too stupid to listen, he tells her to get lost, he basically calls her gross to her face by talking in a disgusted tone about "that operation you had", and flat-out denies her existence as a woman.
  • It's made very evident that if Douglas weren't transphobic, he could've lived the rest of his life with a woman who's established to be literally perfect for him.
[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's kind of a Death of the Author moment. Ignore Glinner being a transphobic ogre and it's actually quite good.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

Glinner is the biggest argument I've seen against Death of the Author, because once you know you're supposed to be laughing at the marginalised character and with the characters mistreating them, it's impossible to find it funny.

There's lots of examples of it too. The first time watching the theatre trip episode where a judge in drag opens the play, I'd read Roy's discomfort with the show being "too gay" as a joke on Roy being out of his element; we were supposed to laugh at his discomfort. But on rewatching it's hard to shake the idea that actually Roy's defence of "I don't want his sexuality rubbed in my face" is meant as something the audience is supposed to identify and agree with, and that far from being a knowing playful nudge at gay theatre the whole thing was a mean-spirited caricature of it. The meaning does get changed whether Roland Barthes likes it or not.

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