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While I agree wholeheartedly that the world needs to cut down on meat consumption, I do NOT agree with forcing it on somebody involuntarily. In some places, especially some parts of the US, cheap meat is often the only way for people to survive, and they do not have access to all the non-meat products they would need to completely replace every nutrient.
Being successfully vegan and maintaining health is a privileged thing in the US. Our food economy is centered on meats, salt, sugars, and fats which are cheaply available everywhere.
Legumes, beans, veggies are always more affordable than meat. Cheap meat is generally considered to be bad for your health - at least in Europe, probably the same over in the US. Beans, rice, some veggies as a garnish go a long way, are super healthy and balanced, and are cheap to boot.
It really isn't about privilege. It's just about having your priorities straight. If you don't care about animal welfare, well fine - no point in trying to force something on you because it's usually a lost cause anyway. But people going about their day claiming they're "animal lovers" and could never hurt an animal but then being omnis or vegetarians are just straight up hypocrites.
Change is hard. Being told you're wrong about something or doing something immoral that you've grown up being told is fine is hard. But some people just need to be faced with the cruel, abusive, torturous, deadly reality that is animal AG. They won't know the truth any other way.
I have a labor intensive contracting job. I also have a very high metabolism and am skinny as a rail. I cannot afford the 10 bags of beans or rice a day I would need to maintain at least 3000-3500 calories a day. If I tried that, I would literally die. I've done it before for a year. A whole year of weakness and sickness and extreme weight loss, and I couldn't tolerate it anymore. I get bulk things like cheap Costco boxes of hamburger patties and stuff like that, which I CAN afford. I am well aware of animal suffering. You don't have to tell me again and again that my existence is fucked up, because I know.
In the US, fresh veggies are more expensive than energy-dense fatty proteins.
What the heck are you even talking about right now?
You don't think you could hit your macros with lentils? High protein, high fiber, calories for days. Throw in something like coconut oil and you're gold. I only discovered lentils in the last few years since, yeah they don't sound appetizing and are considered "poor people" food. Turns out they are great for you, delicious, cheap, and full of protein. I'm just mad it took me so long to find out about them.
Look - you love meat. It's easy. We get it. But lets not pretend you couldn't get the equivalent nutrition from other sources.
Thanks for chiming in. Appreciate it.