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[–] mtoboggan@feddit.org 20 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (10 children)

We can. The US only pushed us to buy F35 to carry their atomic warheads.
Eurofighter, Rafale and Gripen are excellent fighter jets.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (9 children)

Are the Eurofighter really good?
At least in the first years I've only read about problems and the ones in Austria couldn't fly for most of the time
But that's quite some years ago, so I can't remember what the problems actually were - and have no idea, if those got finally resolved

Is there any comparison to relative modern MiGs (or whatever the correct counterpart would be)?

Edit: also I've read that the American jets have some kind of lock, where we need some unlock code from the USA. Is that correct?
Because that is quite some high level of trust into a foreign power to let ourselves defend our countries

[–] krimson@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Not sure if they are any good now but I know the F35 had major issues as well.

[–] einrobert@lemm.ee 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Also the F35s are very complex and require a lot of maintenance. Not sure about EF , Rafale or Gripens.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 8 hours ago

Gripen is specifically built to be cheap and easy to maintain (for a fighter jet, of course). It seems like it'd be a great choice for Ukraine

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Also, if any of these contain proprietary code that can not be independently inspected by military staff, they should be considered compromised.

Corporations exist to generate profit. They do not care about borders, and can't be trusted to not share information with current and future adversaries.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 hours ago

Some Finnish guy claimed that it's not just that F35s contain proprietary code, they actively phone home daily to the US and stop working if they can't reach the server.

If that's true, it's incredibly fucked up and whoever made the deal to buy them should be fired out of a cannon.

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