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Time to get serious with E2E encrypted messaging (techcrunch.com)
submitted 2 weeks ago by Morys@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world
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I currently use Telegram for my friends and family, but have reluctantly come to the conclusion that the UK Government is either reaching agreement for backdoors with messaging services, or is trying its hardest to.

I'm also on Element/Matrix. Before I try to get my contacts to join me on there, should I be aware of any privacy issues or is that a good place to head?

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 73 points 2 weeks ago (48 children)

The biggest issue with Matrix is that the server collects ALL the metadata. If that's your server, that's fine. If thats the default matrix.org server that almost everyone uses, you might as well be using WhatsApp. Same thing goes if any of those people are conversing with people on your server, as they will store all redundant metadata on their server as well.

Signal is easier to use, more private, and faster.

[–] fangleone2526@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (28 children)

Signal requires a phone number on setup.

Also, matrix has bridges, which alone make it worthwhile for me. They, of course, don't help privacy, but they are so so nice for convenience.

Matrix is definitely slow though, and a grand majority of the clients are heavy terrible buggy electron apps. There are a few good ones ( nheko and the new beeper clients ), but even they have some rough edges.

I still use matrix all the time and love it.

If max privacy was the goal I think simplex looks wonderful. No required info for sign up, no way for them to possibly collect any metadata ( because there are no identifiers sent over internet for anyone at all ), E2EE, and decentralized.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

Signal requires a phone number on setup.

It is dumb and annoying and inconvenient but doesn't affect its use or privacy.

I do agree that SimpleX seems like the best chat option.

[–] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It creates a cost for spammers. They have to have an account with a Telco, which isn't free, which in a lot of countries comes with some sort of National ID to register. That's the reason.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No they don't, you can sign up with a VoIP provider.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Lol, let me introduce you to http://smspva.com/

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