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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (20 children)

It always pissed me off that Shadow joined G.U.N.

It's actually one of the many reasons I don't like Shadow the Hedgehog (the 2005 game, not the character, Shadow is cool)

That game makes attacking G.U.N. the bad guy route and Sonic is all like "Hey they're on our side!"

Like ffs Sonic what happened to you, you hated cops in SA2. G.U.N. Tried to arrest you and run you over with a truck. Hell, they DID arrest you and then Amy had to break you out of Prison. Man SA2 was weird.

And yeah, for Shadow, they killed Maria and kept him in a pod for 50 years. And then they tried to kill him after he escaped, and then had to Shadow give his life and die to clean up their mess (yes I consider Gerald's revenge to be G.U.N.s mess) so like... sorry but I don't think forgiving them is heroic. They're clearly an evil organisation.

It really feels like Sonic Team realised how anti-govenrment and anti-police SA2 was and went "Oh shit we better backpedal on that or we'll get in trouble."

Why am I over-analysing the stupid glitchy go fast kids rodent mascot game?

[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

That bugged me with the movie in addition to situating the movies in the real world. Sonic isn't treat brained and he wouldn't help cops, let alone live with one.

Portraying G.U.N. as mistaken good guys was bad and not arresting Sonic at the beginning was wrong on so many levels. And not just because they didn't play City Escape at all.

G.U.N. shot Maria and a bunch of other people when they shut down the space station. And they made Gerald go without mentioning Maria in the whole movie. I still think about the scene in Sonic Adventure 2 where Gerald says his last words before being executed by G.U.N. at a fucking black site.

They didn't need to have G.U.N. at all is the worst part. It's a violent antagonistic organization that doesn't have to exist in a Sonic movie continuity.

Hell, they didn't even need to have Robotnik as a government scientist. He could've just been a scientist.

But no, they had to put as much of the US empire into the movies and then throw in free PR for Olive Garden.

It wouldn't be so annoying if the movies didn't try to make this grounded in the 'real world' and then do everything to hide the parts of the US that would actively harm Sonic and everything he supposedly stands for.

Lmao I'm heated about it too. I was about to go all in on Sonic liking chili dogs as the worst localization trivia that is stuck to Sonic.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I don't even know about sonic at all and now I'm mad about it. Fuck G.U.N.

[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Indeed. Here's the super dark backstory they refused to adapt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtLsYuzCkZo

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Woah holy shit. Thank you for sharing.

I may have to re-evaluate my general attitude towards extreme sonic fans. That is gnarly.

Sidenote: cool username and profile pic. my partner in crime is/was a Cammy main.

[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for checking it out. It's a rough dub and the story is somewhat nonlinear, but Sonic Adventure was rated E for Everyone and so having a story like that slip past my parents was really formative for my childhood.

And thanks! Cammy is always my pick when it's an option.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I only really played the first couple of sonics for brief periods on other peoples' systems and later a bit of half hearted emulation, so I only got the general vibe of "big robot man is enslaving / killing the animals and we save them" but I was just chatting about this little revelation with said partner who is a much more well rounded gamer. She pointed out a bunch of stuff that helped it all click into place for me.

Cammy is dope. I'm terrible at fighting games lol, I love watching tournaments with good commentators though and I've learned how they work, how to appreciate good play. etc etc. Kinda sucks that I was only really introduced to "real" fighting games (ie not just spamming basic attacks in MK) when SF4 dropped. Mostly stopped gaming not long after that, but I still enjoy high level play and watching a few of the scene OGs do variety streaming etc.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

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