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Capitalism isn't the current problem for 95% of the world. The problem for 95% of the world is 1% of the people who have the power/wealth. Whatever "ism" you use, there will always be people at the top who are exploiting people at the bottom. Capitalism succeeded because it provided a new and more efficient form for the people at the top to exploit the people at the bottom. But, it was also better for the people at the bottom. Instead of being tied to the land where they were born, born into a trade, and so-on, now they at least had a tiny bit of agency in their lives.
Capitalism isn't the cause of any of these problems, humanity is the cause of the problem. Humanity forms hierarchical groups, and people at the top exploit people at the bottom. In fact, you could probably extend it well beyond humanity. This is pretty common even in apes, and even in other mammals. Dolphins don't know about capitalism, yet they still have hierarchies.
Ok, so what puts capitalism on the hook? In what ways are people exploited more under capitalism than any other previous system? What makes capitalism so uniquely bad that you have to call it out rather than just acknowledging that it's human, or even animal nature?
communism is classless. there is no top or bottom. same with anarchism.
Yes, and there's a reason that those can't exist in actual human communities of more than about a dozen people.
this is a lie.
Ok, then disprove it. Show a counterexample.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stateless_societies?wprov=sfla1
the swamp maroons
How did that end?
seems like you're no true scotsmanning.
say what you want to say
I already said it.
exarcheia
What about it?
it's an anarchist community of 55,000
And it's not in a country?
more no true scotsmanning
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the Paris commune
How did that end?
invaded by imperial france
After a whole 2 months. Clearly if one of your prime examples is something that couldn't even last a quarter of a year, you don't have a leg to stand on.
being invaded by a superpower is not an indictment of a societal structure
Not being able to defend itself is indeed an indictment of a societal structure.
what city could have survived an attack from France? none. you will never find any true Scotsman.
Moscow has survived attacks from France. Every viable political/economic system has to be able to defend itself. I hope you realize how ridiculous your argument is by giving an example of something that lasted just barely 2 months. That's like claiming that a perpetual motion machine exists by showing some swinging pendulum for 10 seconds.
this is just a denial that anarchist and communist societyies function. you're shifting the goalposts
Moscow isn't a city state