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Hello everyone! I know that Linux GUI advanced in last few years but we still lack some good system configuration tools for advanced users or sysadmins. What utilities you miss on Linux? And is there any normal third party alternatives?

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[–] user_naa@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (11 children)

I maybe need to correct my post. I am talking about system utilities like Device Manager or something else.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Why would I want gui for those things? CLI is often a better interface. Being able to grep lsusb rather than scanning a gui for an entry is much better. It's easier to pipe to an email as well. Screenshots don't allow copy/paste...

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The name is constructed from two parts:

  1. ls: list
  2. usb: usb

It lists usb devices that your machine (/kernel) knows has been connected; they may not necessarily be usable.

E.g. I have some sound output device connected via USB to one machine. On most of my machines I've switched from pulseaudio to pipewire¹, and I figured I'd bring that machine closer to the others so there's less variance. Unfortunately the sound output device didn't want to work with pipewire. The problem manifested as no sound and pipewire not listing the device. lsusb helped me know that the machine at the very least recognized the device, but wasn't currently able to use it. (It did actually also show up as an error in dmesg -H, but reinstating pulseaudio let the device work again as normally. So now I just have to live with a situation where some machines use pipewire because ~bluetooth~ and others use pulseaudio because … usb?¹)

¹ There's a memory of ALSA vs OSS I didn't want to be reminded of

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ah thanks, I wonder if GUI tools for this is useful. Especially if it is for system diagnostics.

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago

I think I wouldn't find it particularly useful, as I'm used to the quasi-programming I can do in a terminal. The shell commands take some time & effort to learn, but once you're over that hump, being able to extract and compose information is really good. The primary shell tools I'd miss in a gui are |, jq, awk, sed and grep/rg, as well as for, if, while, variables, and having everything in one lightweight window.

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