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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

Tell that to the tankies. I'm tired of communism being associated with them.

I stick to the original plan: moneyless, classless, and STATE-less. 🏴

[–] emi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 year ago (15 children)

You don’t know your Marx? socialism-transition-communism

Marx, therefore, further refined the concept of a “transition society” and introduced the idea that the development of communist society would take place in two phases. In the first stage, “socialism” as he called it, the commune state was still necessary both to defeat all attempts at counter-revolution and to reconstruct the international economic system on an egalitarian and planned basis.

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Marx was too idealistic. He didn't account for what happens when you put people into power of this "dicatorship of the proletariat". Most people who get into power are not going to willingly give up power. You'll end up with self-proclaimed communist countries that are either stuck in this transition phase indefinitely, or end up abandoning it in favor of state capitalism.

[–] TankieCatgirl@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

No shit they're still in the transition stage. They are still defending against counter-revolution instigated by capitalist world powers, and have not yet overtaken capitalism as the international economic system. Are you unable to read, or are you just being intentionally obtuse?

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