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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're almost as good a comedian as Zelensky.

[–] lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

two western keyboard warriors arguing over the fate of an island nation on the other side of the planet, having likely never spoken to a single inhabitant and likely never will

~~reddit~~ lemmy baby

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

weird way to say a province of China

[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee -1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Why do you assume I'm from the west? I've actually been to Taiwan and it's amazing. If you visit Taipei 101 you'll regularly see people with flags for independence. If it truly was China, they'll be jailed by now, but that doesn't happen.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

LOL, your brain is so rotten with propaganda. You believe China arrests people for speaking out, then you see people speaking out and not get arrested, so your first thought is - obviously this isn't China.

Mate, China imprisons far fewer people per Capita than the USA does. China handles protests far more peacefully than the USA does. China has a much more vibrant democracy than the USA does.

Taiwan is the equivalent of "the South will rise again" Americans who wave the Confederate flag. They are Chinese people living on island after their leaders lost their civil war and the only reason it wasn't immediately brought back into the union is because UK and USA literally sent warships to prevent it from happening. Can you imagine if the confederates retreated to Long Island and then Germany and Russia sent warships to New York harbor to stop the union from integrating Long Island back into the union?

Learn some history.

[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I try to be but I can't ever compete with those who like to suck boots of bullies.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

says without a hint of irony while promoting US imperialism 🤡

[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee -2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Keep your western politics on your side of the planet. Idk what's with you all assuming everyone is an American

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

You don't have to be American to be a victim of US propaganda. US media completely dominates all of the vassal states as well.

[–] lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

the opposite of US imperialism is not Chinese imperialism, it's zero imperialism. But idk why I'm explaining this you don't seem like the type to understand anything that isn't a Disney/Marvel flavored good guy bad guy storyline

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Except China isn't doing imperialism as anybody who's not an ignoramus guzzling US propaganda would know.

[–] lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

If the Taiwanese people wish to be independent then they are. If they don't then they aren't. Simple as.

Literally nothing you do, say, or feel will change that, because it doesn't concern you at all. No offense but you're kinda just some powerless angry loser, which exist by the billions on this planet already

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

You have no idea what imperialism is. It's not vibes.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Polling in Taiwan shows that your statement is false. Simple as that.

The overwhelming majority of people in Taiwan want to maintain the status quo. The desire for Taiwanese independence has experienced a significant drop over the past three years, with only 25.3% of people who want to “move toward independence” or seeking “independence as soon as possible” - down from nearly one-third - 32.4% - in 2020.

https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/eng/PageDoc?fid=7424

What's more, that's despite US interference in Taiwan politics and media which is very well documented. US has poured countless millions into shaping the opinions of the people in Taiwan through orgs like NED, it directly grooms US politicians such as Tsai Ing-Wen. This is what's known as cultural hegemony.

Sunflower Movement Leader Lin Fei-fan’s Associations with the US NED

Democratic Progressive Party (DPP)’s regular Reporting to AIT

[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Lol the graph clearly shows lack in interest in unification, even "unification as soon as possible" dropped. Isn't that enough sign that Taiwanese don't want unification as of now?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago

The graph clearly shows that vast majority of people are against independence. I see reading comprehension is not your strong point.