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The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.

The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.

Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.

Hamas also criticized the decision.

The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean it's done quite a lot to diplomatically isolate them, right? Putin couldn't go to South Africa for BRICS, he couldn't attend the G20 summit this week, and presumably lots of other trips he hasn't done that he would have otherwise intended to

In Israel's case, I expect this will be a pain for Netanyahu more than it has been for Putin, since the set of countries that are neither ICC signatories nor actively hostile to Israel is a pretty short list

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He'll still go back and forth to the US without issue I'd imagine.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It would be a shame if his plane had engine issues and was forced to land in an ICC country. Just a shame.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Yes indeed, sadly the US is not a signatory

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The name of the game is sanctions. Russian can sustain itself under "nuclear" sanctions. Sanction Israel, and the comfortable lifestyle of illegal Lebensraum settlers will start to look rather unattractive.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

ICC charges are directed at individuals, not entire countries. They wouldn't justify sanctions for the same reason governments don't sanction Saudi Arabia for being the home of bin Laden.

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I couldn't think of a more absurd analogy. If Osama Bin Laden was Saudi Arabia's head of state, and 9/11 was carried out by the Saudi military, and Saudi was party to the Rome Statute, then maybe you make such an analogy. As it actually stands, Netanyahu's crimes were carried out by the state of Israel and that certainly has legal bearing inside the EU's courts, with very recent precedent - sanctions on Russia citing the ICC arrest warrant for Putin. And Russia is not even party to the Rome Statute - the state of Israel is, and would be violating by not giving Netanyahu up.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

crimes were carried out by the state

The same is true of others facing ICC charges. For example, Hamas leaders face ICC charges, but that does not justify sanctions against Palestine.

sanctions on Russia citing the ICC arrest

Sanctions against Russia couldn't cite the ICC charges, because they began long before Putin was charged by the ICC.

the state of Israel is

Like the US and Russia, Israel is not a party to the Rome Statute.

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hamas leaders face ICC charges, but that does not justify sanctions against Palestine.

The EU does not recognize Hamas as the legitimate representative of the Palestinian Territories. It defines it as a non-state actor and a terror group, so what you said is also a terrible analogy. I don't know why you keep using the word "justify". Do you mean legally or morally? Sanctions would be targetted at specific individuals, firms and military/government components, not the state of Israel as such.

Sanctions against Russia couldn't cite the ICC charges, because they began long before Putin was charged by the ICC.

Packages 11-14 were all issued after the ICC judgement. European Commission's statements on the ICC warrant speak quite clearly about Russian culpability, not just Putin's culpability.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

How would you sanction Gaza? It's already blockaded and being starved to death.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 9 points 1 day ago

He wasn't able to travel to Brazil for this reason. I'd say its working