So the Taiwanese all desperately want to join the DPRC? Last I checked Taiwan was a sovereign nation. Capitalism has a foothold there but the British no longer rule there. Justifying imperialism with imperialism also doesn't magically make it okay

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Last I checked Taiwan was a sovereign nation.

Please, check again picard

Disputes about Taiwan's sovereignty is the most famous fact about Taiwan. You are deeply unserious.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Okay I may have worded that wrong but that is also misleading. China is a huge power (I say this is a problem as you may recall). Having diplomatic ties with China is necessary for most nations. China refuses to have diplomatic ties with anyone who recognizes Taiwan as a sovereign nation. So, everybody pretends they don't recognize it, officially. In reality Taiwan has its own government and isn't ruled over by China. In 1991, Taiwan/ROC even recognized the DPRC.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Capitalism has a foothold there but the British no longer rule there. Justifying imperialism with imperialism also doesn’t magically make it okay

No they just installed a friendly neocolonial government. Jesus Christ do some basic investigation. If the British invaded part of your hometown and installed a puppet government, would you call it imperialism for it to be taken back by your town?

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

by my town no. By another country overseas, yes

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So your argument is the geographical boundaries mean when a country is split it is imperialism to unite it again?

Imagine if the confederacy retreated to the keys islands, that's sort of the level of ridiculous here. The right wing losers of a civil war retreated to an island that was and is considered part of the country.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would go even further. If a country exists and everybody has a national identity, all happy citizens. Then one region decides to become separatist. If the rest of the country doesn't let them separate, I would qualify that as imperialism as well.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

Have you read anything on what imperialism actually is?

I would suggest reading Lenin's "Imperialism"