“This year has been difficult, given the scale of death and destruction in Gaza and given the civilian casualties and displacement in Lebanon, it is devastating. And as president, I will do everything in my power to end the war in Gaza, to bring home the hostages, end the suffering in Gaza, ensure Israel is secure, and ensure the Palestinian people can realise their right to dignity, freedom, security and self-determination,” Harris said to applause during a rally in East Lansing city of Michigan, home to 200,000 Arab Americans.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/4/harris-says-will-end-gaza-war-in-final-election-appeal-to-arab-americans

Harris was running for president, not Biden. All the information we had suggested that Harris' presidency would be vastly different than Trump's second term.

Yet Trump has repeatedly urged to Israel “finish the job” and destroy Hamas — but hasn’t said how.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-mideast-netanyahu-israel-gaza-iran-wars-2e37305522d19bdc34e956586cce99bd

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Harris also promised to do nothing differently than Biden.

she would not alter the Biden administration's policies on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the Gaza war, stressing the need to secure a cease-fire/hostage release deal.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-08-30/ty-article/harris-tells-cnn-no-change-in-bidens-israel-policy-we-have-to-get-cease-fire-deal-done/00000191-a0fd-d172-abd9-eaff68f80001

Harris is so hopeless on the Gaza situation that she won’t even call it a genocide, but she will stress Israel’s security and rights to “defend itself”.

You’re only kidding yourself if you think she would have meaningfully been different to the people in Gaza from Trump, both are carte blanche levels of support of Israel.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It wasn't useful for Harris to call it a genocide, because it would have hurt her chances of getting elected. Even Bernie refers to it as a war, probably so he doesn't get censored by the Senate.

Harris called for a ceasefire multiple times. Here's a comment that said it best.

https://lemmy.world/comment/13069715

She’s taken a stance, multiple times. The left doesn’t want to hear it.

March - https://www.npr.org/2024/03/04/1234822836/kamala-harris-benny-gantz-gaza-cease-fire-israel-hamas

July - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/25/harris-netanyahu-israel-cease-fire-00171315

September - https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024/card/harris-calls-for-ceasefire-in-gaza-while-trump-claims-she-hates-israel--isokhfqmy6EgRGrUOSuK

Despite your argument's attempt to conflate the two, it was evident from examining the evidence that Harris wanted a ceasefire and would be better than Trump on this issue. To end the genocide we need a president who wants it to end before all the Palestinians are dead.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Saying you want a ceasefire while you keep arming and funding the side causing the violence is not better, it's the same thing but with a layer of PR on top that gullible fools believe.

To end the genocide, you need a president that doesn't support Israel.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Biden wasn't running for president. Harris was and as VP she doesn't have the power to change the US' relationship with anyone.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Harris was running on doing exactly the same as Biden on Palestine.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago

Unlike Biden, Harris was not a life long Zionist.

When Joe Biden met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his war cabinet during his visit to Israel, the U.S. president assured them: "I don't believe you have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, and I am a Zionist."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/i-am-zionist-how-joe-bidens-lifelong-bond-with-israel-shapes-war-policy-2023-10-21/

She even chose Tim Walz over Josh Shapiro, another Zionist.

For years, he has been a steadfast supporter of the Jewish state.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/josh-shapiros-vp-bid-ignites-debate-israel-antisemitism-rcna164105

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