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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 68 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I'm not American, but tariffs to fix import issues is pretty stupid.

This is the capitalist dream, export all the production of the goods you use daily to third world countries, who will have shit labor practices like the US used to have when slavery was a thing (and bluntly, for quite a while afterwards), so that the boots-on-the-ground laborers that produce everything are either treated like slaves or literally are slaves, then import the raw material to be manufactured into whatever you're selling in the US, so you can slap a "made in the USA" sticker on your shit to enhance sales and charge more. Meanwhile "made in the USA" doesn't and shouldn't imply that there's no imported goods going into the manufacturing process to make that thing, just that you took raw materials (from wherever) and made this thing in the USA.

Tariffs unduly harm end consumers, pretty much everything we buy and own is, or has components that are, imported shit.

Most microchips, a large amount of the food we eat, most electronics, pretty much everything you'll find at a dollar general, etc (the list is very very long)... all imported in whole or in part.

Hell, there was a time that it was more economical to have your raw materials, even if they're mined/harvested/produced in the USA, shipped overseas for assembly by slave labor, then shipped back for sale to the US public, than to have it assembled inside the US. Much of that is still true. The US neither has the manufacturing capacity, nor the desire to build their own shit. The only time that's not the economical option is for large cost (and scale, either in size or money) items, like housing or vehicles. Assembly generally happens in the country/landmass where the vehicle will be sold and used. Even a company like Toyota, a Japanese brand, will have assembly plants in the USA for cars sold in the USA, because that's cheaper than importing hundreds of vehicles. For everything else, it's generally cheaper to assemble it outside of the country and import the final product.

You think process are high now? Wait until the tariff wars really kick off.

No company is going to accept the costs of tariffs and be okay with that eating their profits, they're passing that cost into consumers, because we're the saps that are still going to buy it.

When the tariffs come down, and they will eventually, prices will drop, but not to where they were from before the tariffs. Companies will continue to post record profits, justifying not giving raises because tariffs, and wages will remain stagnant. We'll earn less, while they rob is for more than they already do.

The worst part is that when the tariffs are lifted, we'll thank them for lowering the prices by buying more of their shit. We'll be grateful for the opportunity to pay even more into their profit margins.

Congratulations, you're experiencing late stage capitalism. The system is working as intended. You are poor, you remain poor, barely able to scratch out a living, while your owners profit more and more off of your hard work, and you get to thank them for that opportunity.

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[–] pinkystew@reddthat.com 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I want everyone to be angry enough to do something about this.

How do we get everyone angry.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You spew this every day for the next four years with as wide a firehose as possible. Track every tariff and price it effects, scream it into every tar pit media site out there. Literally just shove this in everyone's faces for this entire time. Every time.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Won't work, they yell "fake news" then bury their heads in the sand like they always do.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Idk misinformation tactics would probably work the same for information and with Republicans theres enough hidden truth to firehose. We aren't swaying MAGAts. We're grabbing those dumb centrists

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A proper education would have done it.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Let's be reasonable here.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 1 points 2 days ago

How do we get everyone angry.

This is the problem


taking away my coffee makes me angry, but I'll be too tired to do anything about it.

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