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To the accelerationists the lives of the Palestinian people are the cost of doing business. Dirtying their hands by voting Democrat would inconvenience them by violating their moral compass. Even though Harris pledged to do everything in her power to end the war in Gaza. The magnitude and scope of an indefinite genocide were immaterial to accelerationists. By contributing to Harris' loss they achieved a moral victory over the progressives and socialists who are also anti-racist, but were willing to leverage power for the benefit of the Palestinian people.
Read this comment section and what the users arguing against democracy had to say. Then watch the video and see how the video is talking about their arguments and their refusal to leverage power for the benefit of others. Their arguments have to twist the video's words and hope you don't watch it.
In a democracy, voting is how we leverage power in elections. When we show up, we win. The accelerationists weren't willing to show up for Palestinians, who they professed to care about. They aren't going to show up for Palestinians, trans people, or anyone for elections in 2026 and 2028. A user argues, in this comment section, against utilizing elections.
Assuming we continue to have elections, please reject accelerationism. Things do not get better by making them worse. Things only get better by learning from our mistakes and using that knowledge to make things better.
Kamala “I Won't Change Biden's Israel Policy” Harris pledged to do everything in her power did she?
Is that the same power Biden has, such as overriding congress to ship weapons to Israel? Or maybe it was rejecting Palestine voices at the DNC events?
Harris and the Dems were never going to reverse course on Palestine. They’d already taken their millions in J Street and AIPAC bribes, and their action and lack of advocacy has been clear since day 1.
Harris promised to do everything in her power to end the war in Gaza.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/4/harris-says-will-end-gaza-war-in-final-election-appeal-to-arab-americans
Harris was running for president, not Biden. All the information we had suggested that Harris' presidency would be vastly different than Trump's second term.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-mideast-netanyahu-israel-gaza-iran-wars-2e37305522d19bdc34e956586cce99bd
Harris also promised to do nothing differently than Biden.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-08-30/ty-article/harris-tells-cnn-no-change-in-bidens-israel-policy-we-have-to-get-cease-fire-deal-done/00000191-a0fd-d172-abd9-eaff68f80001
Harris is so hopeless on the Gaza situation that she won’t even call it a genocide, but she will stress Israel’s security and rights to “defend itself”.
You’re only kidding yourself if you think she would have meaningfully been different to the people in Gaza from Trump, both are carte blanche levels of support of Israel.
It wasn't useful for Harris to call it a genocide, because it would have hurt her chances of getting elected. Even Bernie refers to it as a war, probably so he doesn't get censored by the Senate.
Harris called for a ceasefire multiple times. Here's a comment that said it best.
https://lemmy.world/comment/13069715
Despite your argument's attempt to conflate the two, it was evident from examining the evidence that Harris wanted a ceasefire and would be better than Trump on this issue. To end the genocide we need a president who wants it to end before all the Palestinians are dead.
Saying you want a ceasefire while you keep arming and funding the side causing the violence is not better, it's the same thing but with a layer of PR on top that gullible fools believe.
To end the genocide, you need a president that doesn't support Israel.
Biden wasn't running for president. Harris was and as VP she doesn't have the power to change the US' relationship with anyone.
Harris was running on doing exactly the same as Biden on Palestine.
Unlike Biden, Harris was not a life long Zionist.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/i-am-zionist-how-joe-bidens-lifelong-bond-with-israel-shapes-war-policy-2023-10-21/
She even chose Tim Walz over Josh Shapiro, another Zionist.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/josh-shapiros-vp-bid-ignites-debate-israel-antisemitism-rcna164105