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Thanks for enabling Trump you ginormous ass hat. I will remember your entitled self righteous indignation when Ukraine falls. When Trump talks about eradicating the Palestinian people. And when Russia starts taking small bites of NATO countries, while Trump refuses to respond to article 5 requests.
Sending a message to the democratic party was something you could have done before the election. By getting involved. But noooo let's send the message by handing the US to a fascist and convicted felon, that's far easier.
Edit: I just saw the .ml now. Good one tankie, you got me all riled up. I believe you can now collect a kopek from your boss for your trouble.
You can disagree with that guy. That's fine. But you need to understand that your attitude mirrors the attitude of the democratic party, and it literally just cost them the election.
Ignore the people who want change, assuming they'll vote for you anyway is a great way to get them to vote for someone else.
Reform or fail.
What's so weird to me is how Americans can just be "oh bother! The not fascist prodemocracy party lost. If only I would care enough to do something, oh well better luck next time." why aren't you guys screaming?
Trump's relationship with Putin is going to change the current world order. You know the world? It's where the US is?
If that's too abstract, then look at the remaining SCOTUS judges. With Trump in the Whitehouse then Alito and Thomas can step down and be replaced with more Gen Xers ensuring right-wing dominance for the next 30 years. Repealing Roe v Wade is going to be dwarfed by the what's coming now.
Harris wasn't ideal. Harris was as interesting as a corporate newsletter. But at least she wasn't a threat to democracies worldwide. Harris would have meant less injustice, but not "no injustice". But because people couldn't get no injustice, they stayed home and got 20x the injustice they would have gotten otherwise. And now they're justifying that? GTFO!
The US political system is broken. But it's broken deliberately by one side to suit them, while the other side is too busy blaming each other for their own common failures to do anything.
I screamed when Bush won a second term. I screamed when Trump won his first term. The American people can't really let me down any further than they already have.
Do you mean rioting? The guy even won the popular vote, possibly fair and square. Are you under the impression that there is some action we can take at this point to improve the situation?
That's not a valid interpretation of the situation. Millions of people who voted for Biden did not come out for Kamala. There'll be a lot of people trying to discern why and you probably won't like my guess, but it's too early to really have good information. Exit polls said only about 10 percent of people cared about Gaza at all. This idea of progressives not voting, sending the election to Trump doesn't hold water at all. Dems first instinct is to punch left. I hope they learn a better lesson from this loss.
People who don't vote aren't hanging out on Lemmy talking about politics. All of the vitriol from Democrats is even more misplaced than usual. This outcome was pretty much what I thought would happen, but when I talk about how Dem decisions aren't exciting voters, the response is to admonish me to vote, missing the point entirely.
Refusing to admit the part the Dems play is part of the problem as well. We can't keep doing the same thing we've always done, and if we don't learn from this we are truly doomed.
Ok, so I'll be straight with you. I want to respond to your whole comment, but I need to stop engaging in these discussions. So know that I read all that you wrote, and I want to respond to everything. But I need to limit myself.
I don't know. I don't think so. But something has to be done, and it can't wait until the next election. I'm not advocating violence. Part of me wants to say "eat the rich" and "if enough people shows up with torches and pitchforks, what is Musk going to do?"
But violence isn't solving anything, and besides it would play right into the MAGA dream of a civil war. What has to happen is to copy what MAGA has been doing. Go after local positions. Put prodemocracy persons on school boards, town councils, election boards. Vote in prodemocracy officials like prosecutors, judges, and sheriffs (if any of them aren't just appointed by now)
He only won the popular vote because of the inactions of good people. Prodemocracy movements need an inspiring leader and a cause. Apparently "save the US, save the world" wasn't inspiring enough. IDK what would be, but getting the non fascist Americans motivated and organized is imperative.
I agree, and the part of that paragraph you didn't quote says pretty much the same thing.