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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (117 children)

Fuck the people who didnt vote based on gaza. They are even dumber than Maga hats. They help the candidate that is even worse for gaza win . No one should offer these people any branches. Fuck them. Treat them like the idiots they are just like we do with MAGA.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (93 children)

Okay but if we are guaranteed to lose without them, what's the harm in giving them what they want? Losing while taking the morally right position is never wrong. We spit in the Arab/Muslim/Palestinians/far left Americans faces and they stayed home on election day. So what's the harm in at least giving into their demands? The Republicans do that for their base and are winning even when they lose elections. So I'm arguing a change in tactics because we are literally taking the insanity route if we don't.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 week ago (81 children)

They dont have the morally high ground. They chose to help a fascist get to power. These idiots should never get what they want since they have shown to be completely brain dead. But to get to your point better. Giving them what they want means losing all pro israel people to Trump. Staiying between both positions gets people from both sides. However you cannot give the pro palestine people in america what they want since many want a genocide against israel instead which is just as inacceptable as the status quo.

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

However you cannot give the pro palestine people in america what they want since many want a genocide against israel instead

You are inventing straw men. No one seriously expects this of Harris, and there is a lot of room between 'reverse genocide' and what the Biden/Harris admin did.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you give in to the "Gimme what I want or I want fascism" crowd they will keep asking for more. Many are already demanding Israel to be dissolved. So fuck these people. I will not shed a tear for them when they cry because Trump flattened all of Gaza.

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Whooeee, scratch a lib eh?

Foreign policy is so far from a motivating factor for this country, why can't you just accept that the democrats are a failure of a party? They went further and further right looking for the 'Liz Cheney vote' and lost the popular vote because of it.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not a lib. I am left.

The dems made stupid shit. I said so. It doesnt remove the blame of the fascists voting for Trump and the fascist enablers not voting to prevent Trump

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Die mad I guess, but again, foreign policy just doesn't effect elections. You're mad at the wrong people.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am mad at the right people. Those who held the stirrups for fascism.

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They didn't cause this loss, the failures of the democrats did. Go yell at your politicians for failing to properly fight against fascism.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They arent my politicians. Why do people keep saying this lol

I can yell at both. Those who dont run a good enough campaign to catch the idiots and the idiots who choose fascism

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you in the US? That would make them your politicians right?

Okay are those the two groups you're yelling at? Because there are a ton more that didn't show up for her. Why do these folks seem to be such a focus?

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm luckily not american. I consider every non voter or voter for Jill Stein as someone who chose fascism. As not being against fascism is supporting fascism.

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My mistake.

Okay, but why are they you're focus? Do you yell and rave about and at white people and latino people? Who didn't just indirectly support fascism, but did directly? Because again, they are why Trump won, not third party voters.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago

I am mad at all people who didnt vot for Harris. Be they republicans who voted for Trump, 3rd party voters or people who didnt vote. The thread started with me replying to someone talking about Palestinians who voted 3rd party which is why I talked about them here. About republicans everything has been said already.

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