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[–] GiantChickDicks@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're accusing others of extremism in the same breath as you make one of the silliest slippery slope arguments I've come across. You think those who choose not to have children due to climate concerns are sitting back, over consuming resources, and thinking they've done enough? That's not an extreme assumption?

Be careful, you're treading awfully close to hypocrisy.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The very slippery slope of content people will remain content? Have you never heard of Panem et Circenses? The Roman proverb of Breads and Circuses that entertainment and material comforts will keep the population content?

Having children is tough. You will live an easier life if you don't have children. That's not an extreme assumption. And if you've got yours, and you've got nobody to fight for since you'll be dead in a few years anyway (as everybody seems to believe since society will collapse with climate change as indicated in the linked article) why are you going to give a fuck and give up your comfort to save the future? So yes, I think that people who choose not to have children will sit back thinking they've done their part, and the really dangerous part of that is that change needs momentum and being stationary is going to sap the momentum needed for change.

[–] GiantChickDicks@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I sincerely feel sad for you that the concepts of a broad sense of empathy and deep connections with others who don't share half your DNA seem like such difficult mental exercises, and that you assume those who choose not to act against their values are somehow less moral or caring about society. I don't know who failed you, but it was certainly someone important.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 weeks ago

with others who don't share half your DNA

Ok, this shows that you have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about my family or descendents at all. I'm talking about people's motivations in general. I like the phrase "Individual behaviours are impossible to predict. Groups behaviours are easier to predict".

I general, I believe that people with children will as a group fight harder for the future, and that the childfree movement while good intentioned may be harmful to generating societal will to enact the change necessary to combat climate change in time.

I'm glad you think most people care about society because when I look around and see that climate change hasn't even been a top issue in the US election, and that a candidate who obviously has no clue about anything is a coin flip away from winning...well I don't see the world with your toxic positivity.