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If one chats/mails with a person using Windows, despite using secure private protocols, every message will be stored by Microsoft's Windoze Recall. Either I'm missing something but this feature seems like the most grotesque breach in online privacy/security.

What are ways to avoid this except for using obfuscated text?

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is a perfect example of why all of these privacy intrusion practices should be illegal. The same goes for services like Gmail. I use my own email server because I don't want Google reading my messages. But it doesn't matter, because everyone else uses Gmail, so any time I communicate with someone, Google reads my emails, despite the fact that I never agreed to their oppressive ToS. It's a blatant violation of our right to privacy.

[–] arscynic@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But it doesn’t matter, because everyone else uses Gmail, so any time I communicate with someone, Google reads my emails, despite the fact that I never agreed to their oppressive ToS.

That's avoidable by PGP encrypting your emails though. But I'm sure you know that, and I'm sure you meant that getting most people to use PGP is a pipe dream.

[–] curry@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even if you got them using PGP somehow, there's always a risk. Apps designed to upload screenshots, share contacts or simple human errors like "hey did you hear X saying Y", etc.

[–] arscynic@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago

Yes, but Recall is spyware by design posing as a benign feature. This kind of unethical behaviour I vehemently oppose.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It is the same with Google Fonts. Everyone uses them, so your browser will have to ping Google Servers to get them. Even blocking them, puts you in a smaller bin of users since most people do not block them, which can help them profile you.

I got lucky and forced everyone I keep mostly on touch away from Gmail and into either my Nextcloud instance chat and/or Signal, XMPP or Delta Chat. Which are on mobile.

Another user mentioned PGP, great in theory, but most people I know do not use it and will not touch it. They think it is too complicated, which is not. But people are lazy if they do not care about privacy. I got lucky that I made most switch.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That's a great point about the fonts. And Google Analytics, and AdSense, and their jQuery CDN. They have a whole lot of ways to inject their tracking into every site out there.