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New York seeks 14,000 hotel rooms for immigrants as bill to house them hits $2.3bn
(www.telegraph.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2024
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You ran the ad hominem first buddy, I just replied in kind as you just waved away the remark with "it's complicated".
And the pressure of republicans and other small government freaks is felt everywhere. The simple fact of the matter is that having to resort to paying commercial parties for housing means the government missed the mark on allocating the funds to provide structural housing at much lower cost. Meaning it is a waste of tax dollars that could have been used elsewhere.
Where? So we're already at an impasse. My statement didn't completely hinge on your obvious lack of familiarity with NYC. You ignored the whole argument and turned around and called me oblivious. My statement had no malice, yours clearly did. Welcome to the block-list since you want to be a jackass.
So you learn for the future: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
I didn't solely attack you. I pointed out your obvious lack of knowledge and then pointed out the actual underlying issues that prove your original statement incorrect. Your response was simply "Ignorant American!". Which was both factually wrong and a proper ad hominem. You addressed nothing further than your supposed attack on me. That's what makes the fallacy.
There is "structural" housing, and even a significant amount of it in the NYC area. It's all full up. It costs time and money to build more. And they don't have time because the people are there now. You can't just magic land, magic materials, magic builders, magic all the resources needed to build something in 1 day. And nobody is able to build at any speed to keep up with the breakneck amounts of crossings coming over the border looking for housing in NYC.
So you can call it a waste, but the alternative is that the housing people need now will be available in many months. So everyone goes without in the meantime. And those numbers will never converge with the policies in place right now.
So you again start by being smug and condescending, while crying that I bounced back your "you don't know what you are talking about, with a neither do you".
And then you go on by stating that they missed the mark and it's difficult... And they should have started building when the people where not here yes.. because everyone.. and I mean everyone... Knew they where coming. So if they would have built then.. it would have been ready now. And even if some where vacant for some time.. I'm sure there's plenty of new yorkers looking for affordable housing.
But no, america is special, New York is different compared to plenty of global capitals and mega cities.